Israeli tank column enters Gaza: witness, page 5
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reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:28 PM by deltaboy
reply to post by Mdv2



Depends on what tactics the Israelis will use learning from the Lebanon war, and also how well the Active Protective System works against anti-tank weaponry. Lets see how well it does in this war.


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:31 PM by deltaboy
reply to post by princeofpeace



Its possible that Hezbollah could use this diversion to launch attacks on Israel, forcing Israel to spread its resources to defend on two fronts. Israel could ill afford to go to war on two organizations heavily armed and with massive manpower.



reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:37 PM by chips
Breaking:

Iran security chief meets Syria's Assad over Gaza - 40 minutes ago


DAMASCUS (AFP) — Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Saturday met Iran's Supreme National Security Council chief Saeed Jalili to discuss the situation in the Gaza Strip, the official SANA news agency reported.

It said Jalili, who arrived in Damascus on Friday night, and Assad held talks on "the dangerous situation the Palestinian people of Gaza are going through because of the Israeli aggression."

They discussed the "consequences on security and stability in the region of the Israel's aggression continuing" and "ways Islamic countries can force Israel to immediately stop the massacres against the Palestinian people, end the Gaza blockade and open the crossing points," SANA reported.

Jalili told Assad of "Iran's commitment to cooperation and coordination with Syria on Gaza," it added.

The Iranian security supremo also met the Islamist Hamas movement's exiled political chief Khaled Meshaal and Islamic Jihad leader Ramadan Abdullah Shallah after he arrived on Friday, a Palestinian source said. Both men are based in Damascus.

Iran is a staunch supporter of the Islamist Hamas movement, which controls Gaza, and does not recognise its archfoe Israel which has bombarded the Hamas stronghold in Gaza for the past seven days.

Emergency services inside Gaza say at least 442 Palestinians have been killed and 2,290 others wounded since the Israeli air offensive began a week ago. At least 75 of those killed were children, they said.

In US President George W. Bush's weekly Saturday radio address, the text of which was released by the White House late on Friday, he blamed Hamas for the violence.

"This recent outburst of violence was instigated by Hamas -- a Palestinian terrorist group supported by Iran and Syria that calls for Israel's destruction," Bush said.

(
Agence France-Presse)


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:39 PM by princeofpeace
Exactly. This is the danger and it sounds like Israel is noting it. Just saw an interview on CNN with Ehud Barak and he said they were watching the northern front and hoping frop quiet but are preparing.

I think Hezbollha is the whole x-factor in this.




Originally posted by deltaboy
reply to
post by princeofpeace



Its possible that Hezbollah could use this diversion to launch attacks on Israel, forcing Israel to spread its resources to defend on two fronts. Israel could ill afford to go to war on two organizations heavily armed and with massive manpower.




reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:39 PM by deltaboy
reply to post by t0ken



Doubt it, we probably had been pushed to look to alternatives to propulsion of some kind. Inventors were looking at steam and electricity back then.


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:47 PM by MikeboydUS
reply to post by t0ken



We get most of our oil from non OPEC nations. Our largest supplier is Canada which provides more than all of the Persian Gulf states combined to the US.

Canada: 80,186 thousands of barrels (Oct)
Persian Gulf States: 71,434 thousands of barrels (Oct)

U.S. Imports by Country of Origin

tonto.eia.doe.gov...


On top of that the US produced 143,993 thousands of barrels of oil in October. We produce around twice of what we import from the Persian Gulf.

tonto.eia.doe.gov...

edit to add our US production




[edit on 3/1/09 by MikeboydUS]


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:52 PM by theindependentjournal
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
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Iran is not Arab. Iran is Persian.

Syria supports Hamas. Hezbollah provides training and financial support to Hamas.

Israel struggled with Hezbollah in their 34 Day War. Israel struggles with Hamas daily. Any combined effort by Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas would ultimately defeat Israel, so long as the United States does not get involved.

It doesn't matter what Arab states do and don't support Hamas because none of them will attack Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, or Hamas in support of Israel.


Not interested in Your history lesson, if I misspoke and said Iran and other Arab states I obviously misspoke, do you feel better or superior now? I hope so for wasting my time with Semantics...

Iran has supplied the Hamas Rockets and it seems only you dispute that fact...

Yeah I see your type now and after this response I will ignore you, Israel will defeat any of them, as they have in 48, 67, and very war multiple nations tried to take Israel. So why don't Syria get into this if they think they are bad enough. AND THE US HAS NEVER SUPPORTED ISRAEL what history are you reading, Arafat's history of No Israeli State????

None of them will attack Israel for Hamas, want to bet a dollar to a doughnut??? Arab League said Hamas is at fault, Saudis said take out Hamas, Egypt shoots pals trying to cross and says Take out Hamas, Egypt and Jordon both have peace deals top not get their asses kicked again by Israel so the chance of WW3 out of this is pretty nil. If Iran becomes involved it COULD but not for sure escalate into WW3... I do not think this is likely unless a major power tries to step into it, by major I mean Nuclear...


reply posted on 3-1-2009 @ 02:55 PM by Raustin
reply to post by theindependentjournal



The US has never supported Israel? Are you kidding or did you mistype?

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