Originally posted by CameronFox

Originally posted by tezzajw
Please, proceed to beat your dead horse over a ridiculous claim that the alleged plane flew perfectly parallel to the Naval Annex because Morin said so.

Please, proceed to troll tezz, and please, continue to ignore the literally tons of evidence.

If by trolling, you mean that I should continue to point out the error in your logic, then sure, I'll continue trolling. Otherwise, I don't understand the point of your post, unless it was to insult me by calling me a troll?

Multiple witnesses saw the alleged plane fly somewhere ONA and then fly NOC. None of them would be individually accurate with regards to the exact speed, heading, etc. However, they all corroborate each other in that the general flight path NOC was what they saw.

Cameron, you're the one ignoring the 'tons' of witness evidence to concentrate on Morin's 'parallel' statement, that can't be relied upon as being accurate anyway.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by tezzajw]

Originally posted by tezzajw

Multiple witnesses saw the alleged plane fly somewhere ONA and then fly NOC. None of them would be individually accurate with regards to the exact speed, heading, etc. However, they all corroborate each other in that the general flight path NOC was what they saw.

No one saw any aircraft fly over and away from the Pentagon.

CIT consistently is unable to find any eyewitnesses or reports from any of the many scores of people in a position to see a flyover. In fact, CIT refuses to do so just as CIT refuses to deal with any other evidence.

CIT's eyewitnesses either saw or believe the jet hit the Pentagon.

CIT's latest flight path shows what an aircraft cannot do, nor what any pilot would do. Craig put himself in a position of having to choose between the aircraft flying over the Naval Annex OR or flying over the Pentagon.

It can ONLY be one or the other according to Craig's own flight path. It cannot be both.

Craig Ranke debunked himself. He knows it. We know it. It's completely over for CIT's fairy tale. So, please explain why you continue to defend the indefensible, tezzajw.

posted by CameronFox
Craig... you are failing to acknowledge his original statement.

posted by tezzajw
It's laughable, Cameron, reading how much faith you place in Morin's 'parallel' description.

Any measured quantity has error. It is not possible to draw perfect parallel lines from ordinary tools. Any attempt at measuring quantities results in an error being created. In fact, scientific measurements are useless, unless they also include the margin of error.

Morin looked up, saw the plane for a brief few seconds and did his best to judge the heading. His skewed perspective of looking up at the plane would not have allowed him to perfectly judge the alleged plane's heading. There is no possible way on this Earth that he can measure the flight path being perfectly parallel to the Naval Annex. No way at all. He could have been in error by maybe five or ten degrees, which to him would be reasonably parallel. There is no way to determine how accurate Morin's description of parallel ever was.

Of course tez; you are perfectly correct. Look at the Naval Annex where Terry Morin said he was standing when the decoy aircraft passed over the Naval Annex.



Looking at another view of the Naval Annex with a too scale 757 above him, what does Terry Morin have to judge parallel with? He has the short open space at the end of the building wings, and the long length of the walls comprising wings 4 and 5. Looking up, he has no alignment with the end walls to accurately determine parallel. At a speed of 300-500 fps, Morin would have just a split second to view the aircraft above him from between the building wings.



All the other Over the Naval Annex eyewitnesses confirm Morin's placement of the decoy aircraft above the Naval Annex and more precisely place the aircraft more towards the north side and North of the Citgo. Apparently no confirmed living eyewitnesses saw the aircraft approaching the Pentagon along the official South of Columbia Pike and South of the VDOT tower and South of the Naval Annex flight path. Twenty plus eyewitnesses actually saw the aircraft Over the Naval Annex, which destroys the Official Flight 77 flight path through the light poles and into the Pentagon along the official damage path.



Morin kills the South of Columbia Pike official flight path, which cannot be Over the Naval Annex at all. Another great interview Craig. It is amazing the desperation which has taken over the fanatical 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY defenders.




[edit on 1/4/09 by SPreston]

CameronFox

With all due respect, Craig does not have to account for every single thing in his theory. Craig has a hypothesis, and the data for the most part seems to fit regarding the flight path. It does not have to be 100% accurate, or figured to the smallest detail.

As an example:

The Theory of Evolution. I don't think none of us would disregard evolutionary evidence because we can't figure out how Abiogensis happened.

When you look honestly at what these people are saying, it does put the Plane in a *GENERAL* place, and that place is against the Official Flight Path. There might be some issues with secondary details, but the primary detail in this is that the Plane did indeed fly over the Navy Annex.

Let us be honest abou this. There is a significant amount of people placing the Plane in a place that is contradictory to the Official Flight Path.

He bobs.... He weaves....

....he DODGES!

Nice try Craig.

Anyone else want to guess where Mr. Morin will draw his line?




[edit on 5-1-2009 by CameronFox]

Easy does it Craig.

The title of the thread states OVER THE NAVY ANNEX FEATURING TERRY MORIN.

I am being very civil. (besides the giggling I do on my last post)

I am also discussing on topic his statement.

I am asking where he would have drawn a line to point out the simple fact that he is a SOC witness. You have stated over and over that you have NEVER interviewed a SOC witness. I beg to differ.

The SOC path refutes that of what you and your witnesses claim. It also refutes the math done by PFT.





[edit on 5-1-2009 by CameronFox]

posted by CameronFox
He bobs.... He weaves....

....he DODGES!

Nice try Craig.

Anyone else want to guess where Mr. Morin will draw his line?

Can I play too? Can I guess? Is there a monetary prize for guessing correctly? Ooops . . . . . maybe the judge is biased. Maybe we can't win because the judge is too desperate to let us win.

Here is my Guess.

Terri Morin would draw the line Over the Naval Annex which fatally contradicts all official reports, data, and the physical damage, and agreeing with 20+ other eyewitnesses also positioning the decoy aircraft Over the Naval Annex, proving a military deception on 9/11.