Career Army officer sues Rumsfeld, Cheney, saying no evacuation order given on 9/11

Career Army officer sues Rumsfeld, Cheney, saying no evacuation order given on 9/11

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Wow, cool. Breaking 911 news on two fronts- the suit on Cheney/Rumsfeld AND new testimony from someone who was there that they heard two explosions, and does not believe that a 757 hit the pentagon!

Suit on Cheney/Rumsfeld:

No chance imo, because at that point it was a military action while we were under attack, lol, even if it WAS by themselves.

If suits were allowed like this, then all the families of the dead in Iraq etc. would sue the US government for the losses of their kids lives.

More interesting might be that she heard two explosions at the pentagon. And that implies "together" not apart.

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[edit on 17-12-2008 by TrueAmerican]

Wow, great find! star and flag for anything that has to do with cheney/rumsfeld getting screwed and 9/11 truth. I hope something comes of this. Even if it is just making some people question the official story.

It's no surprise though that no evacuation was ordered (even though they told us it was ordered) when they also could've shot down two of the planes but decided to stand down and let them hit their targets.



[edit on 17-12-2008 by Total Reality]

This ought to be fun to watch!

Let's see how far this goes, shall we? Perhaps no suit can be brought.... perhaps it can. Hopefully the lawyers involved are up to the task.

It won't get too far. Everything will be sealed in the interest of National Security and the lawyers will have a hard time trying to get security clearance.

This story isn't really that big of a deal unless they get into the discovery process. If so then it would be a huge deal.

Star and flag.
I really think this isn't going to lead anywhere as nothing really has.Having the law on your side doesn't really work out in real life.Its kinda like religion.LOL
First hand knowledge is a good find to me in that she was there and has opinions based on experience.
No offence to the religious people here.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by DrumsRfun]

Family members can sue the government, it's just the soldiers who can't.
Besides, the article states:


[edit on 17-12-2008 by Carlthulhu]

Alright, so forget the suit for a minute, what about these two explosions.

From the Suit:



It has long been theorized that part of that wall came down because of explosives in the Pentagon, in addition to the "missile" to quote Cheney, that hit the outside. Maybe this is corroboration.

And I am very curious as to what document she was ordered to clear, urgently!

And what about these flames shooting out from the computer? Huge power surge on impact? Or thermate in her machine, seeing as there is evidence that records destruction may have been one motive?

A lot of curious things here.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by TrueAmerican]

Excuse me?

Why would an evacuation order of the Pentagon come from the "Vice President"? It wouldn't, it's not his call to make. So, the lawsuit will go nowhere.

The suit is coming from a former Army officer? Geez, don't they teach the chain of command anymore? Maybe it's good that this guy isn't an Army officer anymore.

I would also like to point out that the people at the FAA and NORAD were thinking that the incoming planes target was the Capitol building, so why would they evacuate the Pentagon?

What if they had evacuated the Capitol? What if the pilot of the highjacked plane saw all these people lined up on the Mall and at the last moment plowed his plane into them?

This is what is called hindsight.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

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I would like to point out that people who have suffered severe trauma don't always remember things correctly. Also, she was unconscious twice during the whole thing. So, she missed a lot of what really went on.

I think that her lawyer is a scumbag trying to make a name for himself at her expense. There is no case here. Cheney is not in the chain of command and Rumsfeld was also in his Pentagon office. To believe that Rumsfeld deliberately endangered himself as well as the Pentagon staff is laughable.

And so I laugh.

This will be interesting. Here's some evidence of Cheney's negligence. If she gets more good evidence like this, she may have a case because they knew what was going on and deliberately did nothing to stop it.

reply to post by NuclearPaul

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Yep. Good point, and thanks for posting that clip. Even Minetta knew something was up, because of his comment on the SIGNIFICANCE, in a later, larger context, of Cheney's order to stand down. The plane was coming at them, he knew it, ordered stand down and did nothing to protect the people in the building. Well maybe that's because he wasn't worried about HIS part of the building.

edit: In light of that, is what I am saying, you might be right and there really IS a case here, with their own evidence to be used against them. But I think they need to do some work on the suit itself. I could see how some of the language could be objectionable.

[edit on 18-12-2008 by TrueAmerican]

reply to post by lunarminer

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I can see you didn't read the posts. Your "GUY" officer is a woman.
Oh, you finally got it right in your subsequent posts

[edit on 18-12-2008 by Muundoggie]

[edit on 18-12-2008 by Muundoggie]

And here's one example of what I mean by some things need to be rewritten:



A powerful argument, but what I put in bold is incorrect; fighters were summoned. It's just sloppy, for a lawsuit that is. But certainly makes for some good reading.

This is a HUGE deal.

This is testimony that verifies, along with the recent NIST report, that these so called "nut job" "conspiracy theory" 9/11 truthers are on to something, and have been. I realize there are people who will NEVER consider that 9/11 was anything but a bunch of crazy, radical Muslims who hates everything American. But this is proof there is so much more to the story than we know, and the "theories" that are floating around hold more weight than the "God Bless America, kill all those worthless Arabs, it's okay if we torture and kill them" group.

With that being said, this case will get squashed and get squashed hard. You're not going to hear a bit about this in the MSM.

But little by little, by action, not words, we will learn more and more. I look forward to the day when every single person that defends what we did/are doing to the Muslim world will be faced with the absolute truth.

Wow,someone a retired Army officer no less is trying to hold Cheney and Rumsfeld responsible for 911,the fact that this suit has not gotten squashed just yet is shocking to me of course I fully expect the flag wavers and believers of the official theory to claim this is all an attempt to defame and extort "our" Vice-President and Secretary of Defense.

Facts will come out that will sustantiate it all but it will be made to look foolish and the lawyers will be made to look like idiots and so on and so forth until it is swept under the carpet and looks like another stupid conspiracy theory!
The government will always win - they have ALL the power and resources!!

If it actually came to a trial (which I highly doubt it will due to the sensitive nature of it all) chances are a settlement would be reached and who knows they could offer them 1 billion dollars to keep their mouth shut, that's assuming they have got something here the govt. doesn't want in the public eye.

Not to mention it would be the perfect time to make pay-offs as the economy is so messed up no one would even bat an eyelash at a measly billion.

Great News! Let's hope we can build some momentum with the public!

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