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Special Ops Officer Speaks Out!

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posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:21 PM
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Here's what I think. (first to address the amount of time to get to E7 you forgot to mention that you can make E5 out of boot, A school) If your friend was going to the press he would of gotten an article 15, the same as you would get if you had mentioned anything really secret in here. Your story seems to have some inconsistencies, along with Malaysian Man Tracker School. That school is used to teach soldiers (special ops or even regular rangers) about jungle survival. They learn what bugs and plants they can eat. At they the end of their training they are left in the jungle and have to make their own shoes, shelter, heat, clothing, food. They are left there for a few weeks, alone. It's not only public information I just talked to a friend who went there. If you do indeed believe your friend was murdered you should bring that up with the MPs on base or the FBI and bring them the evidence. It does raise some question, but the military doesn't kill it's own people for attempting to tell or publishing classified information. They article 15 your butt and lock you up. I hope you can answer some of this.




posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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Jumping in again... Members should learn to embrace Google and use it often whenever you are in doubt. A simple Google search on this user's name will eventually lead you to the kind of information no "special ops" person would ever allow to be displayed online... much less be connected to an artificial persona "blowing the whistle". While the details of the story may be vague enough to have some kernels of reality, the background of this member appears not to be completely what he claims to be.



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:32 PM
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Don't be surprised when he steals your soul. People in the CIA and Spec Op's all know that if they get in too deep their lives are expendable. Nobody, other than a Bush famiy member, who knows what's really going on lives to tell about it, just ask Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby.



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Muaddib
humm, is my avatar showing to anyone now? I don't see it for some reason. Well, I'll check tomorrow, need some zzz.


Your link needs to be corrected. Copy and paste the following URL into your profile avatar space (I simply removed the "thread41861" from your current link):

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Back to the topic: I'd like to read more from iceman8578 and less from the rest of you vermin.



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:41 PM
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what I love about a type of thread like this is,

someone comes forward making statements and claims about all of this secret infomation and knowledge.

Everybody gets excited and wants to know more and we 4,5, 6 pages of replies and questions, only to never hear from the author of the thread again.

I say this one is a fake, but you never know, so hopefully he'll come back and prove some of us wrong.



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone but you never know
See my post above. I think we know.



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 02:18 PM
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Skeptic,

[EDIT]Fark, never mind...[/EDIT]

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by titian]



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 02:24 PM
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#, I just like reading Starchild rip another off the wall of attention. Very entertaining. Edit: He has a way with directed words.

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by icelid]



posted on Apr, 5 2004 @ 07:15 PM
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Valhall----- Hey - psst - the WHOLE ISLAND is Borneo.

Muaddib---lol, true that, true that...i guess that's what happens when you try to find Borneo in a map early in the morning.
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Valhall----- I wouldn't necessarily call a shore a border, but it is, in fact, a border, and it is "near the border of Borneo and Kota Marudo".

Muaddib---He said "the border of Kota Marudo and Bornio" There is no border between the two because Kota Marudu "is" in Borneo. Anyway way too many inconsistencies in his story for it to be true.------

[Edited on 6-4-2004 by Muaddib]



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 12:58 AM
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Where the hell is this guy? Iceman...come out, come out wherever you are...

Mr. M



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 01:06 AM
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*looks behind his puter table, shakes head.....Looks under table, shakes head once more*

He is not here.....*Shrugs*



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 01:16 AM
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"I have been a published fantasy artist for 10 years and I recently purchased 3D Studio Max 5 and know nothing about computer modeling software. I am looking for away I can get classes or some personal one on one instruction on how to use this software to take my 2D Fantasy work to 3D. And if your in need of a good concept artist please e-mail me at quamunit@hotmail.com.
Sincerely
ICEMAN"



The above is quoted from the following website, where Iceman states that he is a concept artist, and that he would like to learn more about computer art.

www.turbosquid.com...

Notice how the words "fantasy" are used twice, "concept" is used once, and "10 years" applies to his time spent studying this material. I highly doubt that any SpecOps "Commissioned" Officer (or otherwise) would have the time to spend educating himself in concept art, unless he was an Intelligence Specialist (which I doubt is the case).

The words "fantasy" and "concept" apply very well to your post, don't you think, Iceman?

About those questions I requested answers to earlier. You don't have to reply, it's OK.


I understand that you may feel uncomfortable posting information on-line.


Considering the fact that you just "revealed" a "highly classified" instance in history, which according to you, was conducted intentionaly by the government, resulting in the death of an innocent man, I can see how you would feel uncomfortable posting information which would help "PROVE" that this event really happened.



Mr. M



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 07:47 AM
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Very nice, StarChild used Google and found the first layer of information. The second layer is easy to find from there, and it reveals far more... so much more, that any such "covert ops" person would simply not allow it to be online at all. Iceman certainly had a position as a senior tech dealing with advanced satellite communications. Such is a position where one can overhear interesting tidbits and form that, concoct tantalizing fiction. Afterall... he is a professed fan of fantasy fiction.



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by StarChild
Considering the fact that you just "revealed" a "highly classified" instance in history, which according to you, was conducted intentionaly by the government, resulting in the death of an innocent man, I can see how you would feel uncomfortable posting information which would help "PROVE" that this event really happened.



Mr. M


He didn't post anything classified. There would be no reason to kill anyone over knowledge of that school because it's not a secrete, it's not classified. (and why would The story about his dead friend (at least I would think) would be investigated in a heart beat with the evidence he spoke about if he raised a couple of flags. But as far as that non classified base goes why would terrorists be trained in a jungle setting? Isn't the desert the place to be these days if you're a terrorist? are there any jungles near areas that the US considers to currently be important to the point where they would train terrorists to destabilize that area?



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by J0HNSmith

Originally posted by StarChild
Considering the fact that you just "revealed" a "highly classified" instance in history, which according to you, was conducted intentionaly by the government, resulting in the death of an innocent man, I can see how you would feel uncomfortable posting information which would help "PROVE" that this event really happened.



Mr. M


He didn't post anything classified. There would be no reason to kill anyone over knowledge of that school because it's not a secrete, it's not classified. (and why would The story about his dead friend (at least I would think) would be investigated in a heart beat with the evidence he spoke about if he raised a couple of flags. But as far as that non classified base goes why would terrorists be trained in a jungle setting? Isn't the desert the place to be these days if you're a terrorist? are there any jungles near areas that the US considers to currently be important to the point where they would train terrorists to destabilize that area?


Note the " 's and the
. Obviously, I am not taking this very seriously. However, I would like him to "attempt" to produce evidence supporting his claims, considering that, after all, he is out to "reveal the truth", right?


Mr. M



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Very nice, StarChild used Google and found the first layer of information. The second layer is easy to find from there, and it reveals far more... so much more, that any such "covert ops" person would simply not allow it to be online at all.


What's with this 'seek & find' crap? If the information is so bogus and too revealing to be true, then why don't you just link us to it?



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Bangin If the information is so bogus and too revealing to be true, then why don't you just link us to it?
I suppose the hints didn't work... so the blunt approach is needed... Because it would be unethical for ATS to provide a link to detailed personal information.



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I suppose the hints didn't work... so the blunt approach is needed...

Because it would be unethical for ATS to provide a link to detailed personal information.


Hehe, you beat me to it. I guess some people need it slammed home to them with a baseball bat...


Anyway Bangin', it would take you all of two seconds to look yourself, surely that wouldn't be too much trouble for you?

Maybe it helps to not buy into every bit of crap you hear, just because you want to believe it... Maybe then you wouldn't get angry with people when they prove it to be false. Just a suggestion.

[Edited on 6-4-2004 by John Nada]



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by John Nada
Anyway Bangin', it would take you all of two seconds to look yourself, surely that wouldn't be too much trouble for you?

Maybe it helps to not buy into every bit of crap you hear, just because you want to believe it...


Eh, I found the same page as StarChild when I ran a google search yesterday. Needless to say, I didn't feel compelled to look any further. Who said anything about 'buying' into every bit of crap you hear? I didn't make a post in this thread until 4 pages later, and at that point it was obvious that ICEMAN had no intentions on answering anyone's questions.

I guess I don't have the super-search capabilities required to find this information.



posted on Apr, 6 2004 @ 09:43 AM
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Sorry, I guess my eyes were drawn to your quote by THEEGO, I figured you followed the same philosophy.




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