OK, Iceman, I read your story. Now, answer me this:

1. When were you in the military (???? - ????)?
2. What was your rate (MOS)?
3. Where were your duty stations?
4. When did you go through school (you know what I'm talking about), and when did you graduate?
5. Who was your class OIC?
6. Explain in detail your training, and what the requirements were. Also, explain what the graduation ceremony was like.

Note that I do not request any personal information about yourself. I am solely requesting information which may help verify your "status" as a Special Forces Officer (what rank?).

Quoted from Iceman's post:

"Well I have news for the general public in here the US Government reads this site TRUST ME!"

You must be an absolute fool. If what you are saying is true, and the government murdered an active duty enlisted man in cold blood, solely based on his religous beliefs, the last thing you would be doing is posting it on ATS. I believe that you are spinning up a tale to get people interested, and gain points for yourself from the reactions on your thread. Prove me wrong...


Mr. M

Starchild, is ok, I already showed that he has never been in any military ops in Malaysia since he doesn't know that Kota Marudu is nowhere near the border of Borneo.

I also think he was not in the military.

Oh, one more thing. According to the following quote from your post, you seem very eager to "reveal" the information you "possess".

"I have dates, times, people involved, locations, operation names, people in government that were in charge, and many many Doc. from with inside Spec Ops from working projects that are not on the books."

Ok, ICEMAN (TopGun, anybody?), here it is. This is what you must do (along with the instructions provided in my previous post):

1. Scan and post your "documentation" for authenticity testing purposes (it's very easy to tell, trust me).

2. Provide us with the exact day, time, city, county, state, type of vehicle, full name, place of birth, date of birth, county of birth, and hospital of birth of this person who you claim was killed in cold blood. Also, include what office conducted the autopsy.


Mr. M

Originally posted by StarChild
OK, Iceman, I read your story. Now, answer me this:

1. When were you in the military (???? - ????)?
2. What was your rate (MOS)?
3. Where were your duty stations?
4. When did you go through school (you know what I'm talking about), and when did you graduate?
5. Who was your class OIC?
6. Explain in detail your training, and what the requirements were. Also, explain what the graduation ceremony was like.

just for fun, lemme try answering these. i'll say here before saying anything further that I am NOT repeat NOT special ops. my answers are for fun.

1. from.. uh... 2000-2004
2. E-7 and 12X
3. Rammstein AFB, germany
4. started at valley forge, went to the academy @ annapolis and ended up at aberdeen proving grounds @ 2000
5. Officer Hardass ok my for-real attempt... uh... Commander Parkinson
6. My training... well... there were aptitude tests, torture tests, urban assault and defense drills, paratrooping, FMC training. requirements forced me to prove my worth and graduation was GReAT! aside from being a bit tacky and overbearing, it was fun!

how'd I do, boss?

[Edited on 4/5/2004 by AlnilamOmega]

Alnilam, you must have been a special ops operative...

LOL, And your telling me that with all that info Starchild you couldn't find out who he is ?

A simple cross reference on a database would narrow it down to no more than a few names.

A little sneaky IMO.

Iceman,

Answer what you're comfortable with and no more.

Keep spilling the beans.I have my own methods on finding out if you are telling the truth or not and I don't have enough yet.

Originally posted by John bull 1
LOL, And your telling me that with all that info Starchild you couldn't find out who he is ?

A simple cross reference on a database would narrow it down to no more than a few names.

A little sneaky IMO.

Iceman,

Answer what you're comfortable with and no more.

Keep spilling the beans.I have my own methods on finding out if you are telling the truth or not and I don't have enough yet.

Dammit, you compromised the mission!!!

Mr. M

Originally posted by StarChild

2. Provide us with the exact day, time, city, county, state, type of vehicle, full name, place of birth, date of birth, county of birth, and hospital of birth of this person who you claim was killed in cold blood. Also, include what office conducted the autopsy.


Mr. M

whoa youve got to be kidding me. you dont really expect this guy to jump through this last hoop, do you? that would ID him to 'those in the know' faster than a speeding bullet. besides, this guy hasn't responded in a long time. i think if he were really interested in racking up points like a certain new member named TT, he wouldve followed up on his post repeatedly as opposed to just disappearing.

thanks Muaddib, but seriously, im not a special ops officer. im just pretty smart and resourceful, if you'll forgive my absence of subtlety in this case.

and what about you Starchild? whats your evaluation of my answers? im just curious

To AlnilamOmega:

Everything except the E-7 part. There is no way this guy made it that high. My guess is this.

U.S. Army 1998 - 2002

E-4 / Infantry (Infant? :lol

Duty station was close to an Air Force base, judging by his username (no overseas tours).

No special training courses (besides boot camp)

Doesn't know the difference between a Green Beret and a Navy SEAL, except for the fact that one is Army and the other is Navy.


Mr. M

Originally posted by StarChild

Dammit, you compromised the mission!!!
Mr. M

oh I get it .... i KNEW it. I KNEW you were THAT kind of guy Starchild!!!! explains that response of yours in my NSA thread. even if you were joking, the psycholigical basis behind these words affirm my suspicions.

you were trying to find this guy and rub him out, weren't you? have you no conscience? i mean, I know you do, but shoot... don't you care about people any more?

oh yeah, and please forgive my emotional outbursts. i edited them because I am a slave to my emotions; nonstop.

wow. im impressed I managed so well. maybe im a spec ops officer in my sleep or something. sounds silly, but I have thought about this before before. (is there an echo in here?)

eh who knows. maybe I'll sign up someday and work on all the cool espionage projects.

just so i can have that rank of Commander that I love and deserve!

[Edited on 4/5/2004 by AlnilamOmega]

No, my intention is not to "rub" him out.

My intention is my intention, and that intention is to obtain information which is beneficial to personnel, who through faith, may concieve a truth, based on their own understanding, and the compilation of knowledge, gained through experience, justified through evidence, and applied towards goals ultimately shared by all, who by their own involvement in research, achieve peace...

Mr. M

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by StarChild]

As far as the NSA post goes, I don't remember the instance you refer to. Do you have the link?


Mr. M

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by StarChild]

nice try.

that's pretty good redundancy talk. probably confused the hell out of most of who read that. in other words :mission accomplished:

that's pretty well written, too:
"My intention is my intention, and that intention is to obtain information which is beneficial to personnel, who through faith, may concieve a truth, based on their own understanding, and the compilation of knowledge, gained through experience, justified through evidence, and applied towards goals ultimately shared by all, who by their own involvement in research, achieve peace..."

but the question is, what kind of personnel? rumsfeld and goons? or rather, bush's bosses and other nwo propogators? what kind of peace? martial law?

im just fookin with ya, buddy. no offense intended. but that piece you wrote up there that I just quoted. nice piece of work, if I may say so. lemme give it a shot:

It is my intention, by informing the informants, who willingly and adamantly pursue, while adapting and analyzing, with conceptions above and beyond the rule of law, and the gathering of information, while using an advanced filtration process, through the methods of logic, thereby ruling out disinformation, engaging in rational behavior, realizing conventional methods of resistance, creativly inducing more successful tactics, whilst focused on defeating the enemy, to achieve benefits for all.

[Edited on 4/5/2004 by AlnilamOmega]

It is my intention, by informing the informants, who willingly and adamantly pursue, while adapting and analyzing, with conceptions above and beyond the rule of law, and the gathering of disinformation, while using an advanced filtration process, through the methods of logic, engaging in rational behavior, achieve benefits for all.

So basically your goal is to compile as much knowledge as possible, disinformation or otherwise, and decipher it all, ultimately resulting in the truth.

On other things, why do you say "informing the informants"? Inform them of what?


Mr. M

Everything except the E-7 part. There is no way this guy made it that high. My guess is this.

Well, it is possible to start with an E-4 rating right after graduation from a Naval Aviation School, so it is possible, if you are really smart to make it to E-7 in three years.

Consider this. If he had made E-7, do you really think he would have gotten out?

Besides, E-7 is not obtainable in a 4 year time period. A minimum of 5 years is required to make Chief. That's if you came in E-3, made E-4 meritoriously out of school, and got EP's out the ass, and passed every advancement exam. And you would have to be the most #HOT dude on the face of the earth.


Mr. M

That's basically it! Well done, Star Child! you're a bright fellow. I expected as much. thanks for keeping up.


well, honestly, i wrote "informing the informants" as part of the confusion spiral. but, to answer your question, I suppose that I meant that I like to tell those in the know stuff that they arent aware of already. Meaning that I like comparing notes with people, informed or otherwise. I am all for sharing information with my allies.

damn all of this special forces talk has me drooling over the possibility of joining up... *sigh* if only the property I was defending wasn't so corrupt...

#, you are right, you need to be at least 12 months as an E-4 to go to E-5, then you need 36 months as an E-5 to be E-6, then another 36 months from E-6 to E-7 and that's for the Navy. He would have to be at least 7 years plus, almost 8 in active duty to be an E-7.

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by Muaddib]

Exactly, depending on how long your specialty training lasted.


Mr. M

Originally posted by AlnilamOmega
That's basically it! Well done, Star Child! you're a bright fellow. I expected as much. thanks for keeping up.


well, honestly, i wrote "informing the informants" as part of the confusion spiral. but, to answer your question, I suppose that I meant that I like to tell those in the know stuff that they arent aware of already. Meaning that I like comparing notes with people, informed or otherwise. I am all for sharing information with my allies.

damn all of this special forces talk has me drooling over the possibility of joining up... *sigh* if only the property I was defending wasn't so corrupt...

Well, thank you! Take a guess what I meant by mine...


Mr. M

[Edited on 5-4-2004 by StarChild]