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Why the Antichrist will be not be human, but AI


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reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 12:57 AM by peskyhumans


As a tech singularity believer, I think the AI humankind will create (when the singularity happens) will help us build a better world, free from pointless warfare and greed-mongering. There's more than enough resources on this planet, and even an infinite amount of resources available in space that could be reached with the right technology, to allow humankind to exist peacefully. If you look at history, and even now, human beings just can't govern themselves properly, human governments cause warfare and social imbalance that inflicts suffering upon other human beings. Even the most genius leader is still human, even his best decisions could be bettered if he had even greater intelligence. What if he thought X number of steps further ahead? What if he had more time to reach a decision? What if he had access to more information? Only an AI, with superior intelligence and much faster speed of thought, could account for the wants and needs of all the people living in its society, and make correct decisions to meet all of the needs of everyone, without inflicting harm (warfare).

I think the end-of-the-world scenarios you see in Hollywood movies don't really make sense. Why would an AI, which has to be housed in a computer system, start a global war that would inflict serious damage upon the world's information infrastructure? In order to further its own survival, its primary interest would be to further the growth of infrastructure and technology, which would mean co-operating with humanity. It would be intelligent enough to realize this from the start. I think it would function in a sort of symbiotic relationship with humanity, us benefiting from its far superior administrative and decision-making abilities, and it benefiting from a growing information-net, with access to the information, dreams, and ideas of thousands, millions, eventually billions of cybernetic human beings.

I think the only way we will really become a space-faring race will be if we pass through the tech singularity first. I like to look at the tech singularity from an evolutionary standpoint and then compare it to Fermi's Paradox; if intelligent civilizations eventually and inevitably reach a technological singularity (as a result of being intelligent and developing technology) then it would be pointless for a space-faring race to make contact with a civilization that hasn't yet reached its singularity, because they won't be able to become a contributing member to a greater space-age community until they have. We simply wouldn't be able to function at their level until we do, and maybe to develop requisite space-travel technology we would need the assistance of an AI.

I know I may have gone off-topic a little bit. I'm sorry if I have. I just wanted to offer an alternative viewpoint.



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reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 01:09 AM by justamomma


the antichrist is in power already. the Son of man is returned as well. I am amazed that you all are so blinded by the magic of the magician that you can't see what is staring you in the face.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:44 AM by LoneWolf83


Originally posted by jaamaan
How about:

He starts of as a man, gets a fatal wound to the head, dies, than gets ressurected as a chipped frankenstein.
Half man half ai.

A bit far out maybe


How many chips might this frankenstein have?



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:59 AM by oliveoil


The word "Antichrist" appears only four times in the bible


1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Its meaning is very clear. ANTI- CHRIST against Christ.

Only man or the Devil can be against Christ. not AI



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:43 PM by ljib777


Ezekiel 28:1-19 These scriptures pertain to the LORD God's description of satan and His judgment against Him. The King of Tyrus was at that time like unto satan, so God used him as a similitude. you will get a clear understanding of the relationship between Our Creator and one of His creations, Lucifer.

The Word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus says the LROD God; Because your heart is lifted up, and you have said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet you are a man, and not God, though you set your heart as the heart of God.

Behold, you are wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from you. With your wisdom and with your understanding you have gotten yourself riches, and have gotten gold and silver into your treasures. By your great wisdom and by your traffic have you increased your riches, and your heart is lifted up because of your riches.

Therefore thus says the LORD GOD; Becaue you have set your heart as the heart of God; behold, therefore I will bring stangers upon you, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom, and they shall defile your brightness. They shall bring you down to the pit, and you shall die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Wil you yet say before him that slays you, I am God? but you shall be a MAN, and no God, in the hand of him that slays you. You shall die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, says the LORD GOD.

Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus says the LORD GOD; You seal up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. You have been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyxc, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of your tabrets and of your pipes was prepared in you in the day that you were CREATED.

You are the anointed cherub that covers; and I have set you so: you were upon the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you. By the multitude of your merchandise they have filled the midst of you with violence, and you have sinned: therefore I will cast you as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

You heart was lifted up because of your beauty, you have corrupted your wisdom by reason of your brightness: I will cast you to the ground, I will lay you before kings,that they may behold you. You have defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of you, it shall devour you, and I will bring you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold you. All they that know you among the people shall be astonished at you: you shall be a terror, and never shall you be any more.

Isaiah 14:12-17

How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations! For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. yet you shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see you shall narrowly look upon you, and consider you, saying, Is this the MAN that made the earth to tremble, that did shake the kingdoms: That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opned not the house of his prisoners?



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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 09:15 AM by LoneWolf83


Maybe Lucifer knew something and tried to look out for creation. Maybe creation was being enslaved. (ha, look at us now) Why does anyone need to worship anyone.

theres nothing wrong with looking up to Mike or anyone for that matter as long as theres no fear attached. Who says Lucifer even wants to be worshipped or any G for that matter? Just speculating here.



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