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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Wow, so I am speculating when I assume that a case needs to have some merit before it is referred to conference? WTF?
I would have loved for this case to be heard, simply so I could put it to rest in my mind, not all of yours. And BH, I don't know why you'd say that about me that you don't think I'd believe it even if the SCOTUS took the case? Come on now, I am not that shallow. I have said many times that I'd be completely satisfied if:
1) The SCOTUS court ordered his vault copy.
2) They had it analyzed by forgery experts to assure its validity.
3) They wrote a formal request to the government of Kenya asking for verification that they have no record whatsoever of Obama's birth in Kenya.
4) The forgery analysis came back clean
5) SCOTUS proclaims Obama eligible.
Done. End of story for me. That would be enough.
Originally posted by nsaeyes
reply to post by danx
yes, and section E of that qualifies him as a natural U.S. citizen. Point well taken, though.
The Congress shall have Power To (...)
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
Originally posted by redhatty
You asked a question, I gave an honest answer, and you negate it as though it doesn't matter.
I for one, would like an authoritative, impartial party - like a judge - to request both the long version of the BC certified as true by the state of Hawaii - and look to the dual-citizenship at birth issue and decide if that still constitutes a "natural-born citizen.
If I still have doubts they are mine and I own them. I am not afraid to express them - and apparently many others have similar doubts.
Negating other people's doubts/feelings/opinions will only feed the division that is already forming in this country.
Why not try to help heal the division instead of widening it?
You do realize that is by far the most any president elect has ever, ever had to do to show his eligibility?
Originally posted by robotically
However you can't ignore the fact that Mr Obama has ridden this plane to fame under false pretenses. He is not African American as US law defines it. He is more Arab American than anything else.
Originally posted by nsaeyes
interesting...although I'm not sure why there would be a need to "naturalize" a individual at birth if he already fits into one of the subsets of Federal Law...I guess it's a case of symantics....
Originally posted by redhatty
Here is the official statement from Hawaii
Please point out where in this statement is specifically says that the BC posted on Obama's site, or the daily Kos, or factcheck is the same as what they have on file.
That's the whole problem with using this statement - it really says NOTHING regarding whether or not what we have been shown is the same as what they have
Can you name the law firms and cite your sources within those firms who have somehow managed to violate client privilege without being disbarred?
Originally posted by kozmo
Yet he has spent over $1M retaining law firms, THREE to be exact, to represent him on this matter... why?
Originally posted by kozmo
To say that there is nothing to look into is both short-sighted and outright stupid!
I am looking forward to the SCOTUS being challenged on every single document that he signs as President of the US until this question is answered.
Originally posted by robotically
Yeah, we got exactly who we wanted for president... but... its exactly who we were setup to pick anyway.
Originally posted by CoffinFeeder
Doesn't matter where Os^hbama was born at this point, unless you're one of the kool-aid drinkers, his credibility is swirling down the toilet, his trustability is degrading by the day.