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reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 11:54 AM by Durkin
reply to post by Anuubis


I don't mean to bash you in any way, but please note:
1) The U.S. economy has its ups and downs, even if this particular one is worse than many previous downers. Also, we survived a great depression, I know a few people who literally survived the depression, they aren't worried.
2) 200 people dead isn't a whole lot. Especially in India, the country with close to if not over 1 billion people. It is not nearly in comparison with 9/11. So I don't think the state of the Earth is worse off than it has been before.

One thing I can't reply to is the shootings in the U.S. as I have no idea which shootings you are talking about. Perhaps you are mentioning the school shootings, even though none have happened of late. They worry me too, and they are more frequent, but they aren't recent enough to say the Earth is collapsing to the core.

By the way, I don't believe the Mayans were that great in their fortune telling saying we will die in 2012 all the way, but I believe it enough to worry about it and look towards signs. As for what Nostrodamos (forgive my spelling) said about chaos coming in the end of days, that just makes logic, why else would the world be destroyed if everything wasn't crumbling.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:15 PM by Moonage
reply to post by Durkin


The Mayans never predicted anything:
My post on the Mayan calendar

They used an algorithm that ran out of possibilities in 2012. However, most assume that they simply would have added an additional placeholder to the ones they created years ago if they had made it to 2012. It's very simply done. Doing it then would have made no difference in the calendar. People later took it as a "prediction" that the world would end. That was never intended.

No man's interpretations have been screwed around with so much as Nostradamus.
An observation on poor Nostradamus
People are even using crop circles as evidence supporting Nostradamus's predictions. Nostradamus simply "borrowed" some concepts from the Bible, and tossed in some science of the day, and some hocus pocus equivocation of wording. In other words, he took what people believed, what people knew, and made "predictions" based on current events with some historical perspective people "knew" were true because they were in the Bible. There are a couple of instances where his predictions were pretty uncanny. However, in most cases, they were so vague they could be attributed to almost any point in time as we tend to water down our memory and consider right now the threat. Uncertain financial times? Sheez, that's every ten years. Anyone remember the financial meltdown of 2001? The chaos following the The World Trade Towers? How far back do we have to go before that? 1996? Before that? 1991 the economy was so bad Bush couldn't get elected and we were dealing with terrorists in Iraq. Before that? 1979 no one could borrow money and gas was so expensive people left their cars on the side of the road while Americans were held hostage in Iran. It just goes on and on. What's going on right now is just the norm.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 12:48 PM by stikkinikki
Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Originally posted by stikkinikki
The super rich are just clearing their books and rearranging the furniture. They lust for money and comfort. They will finish consolidating later in 2009 and watch everything become rosy once again.

What say you quote Nostradamus right here so I can see what you are talking about?



Rearranging furniture at this stage would be like rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.

Nobody sinks the entire ship willingly. They may set fire to the 3rd class quarters and then charge the 3rd class passengers rent to sit in the ballroom, but they wouldn't sink the ship.

Im interested to know who you think they (ie the super rich) are. Other than Bill Gates buying a submarine, Bush buying a ranch etc I haven't really heard of any instances of the super rich preparing for an orchestrated global crisis.


The heads of multinational coorporations, the benefactors of old money etc. They might not have planned it but they will profit off of it. It could be that the system just rotted from the inside thanks to corporate greed at all levels. Every human likes to be comfortable although we all have different criteria for what that means. Some people are taking advantage of the situation i.e. bailouts and some are trying whatever they can do to stem the losses. Eventually the bailout money will dry up and it will be back to extracting value directly from the people instead of from their custodians.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:21 PM by Anuubis
reply to post by stikkinikki
I can't find the website about the Mayans that i read about their prophesies right now. I'll keep looking, but when you do a search the results are all cluttered with sites of people selling books and crap.

And on dec. 21, 2012 the earth will be in a solar alignment with the sun and a black hole in the middle of our galaxy. It won't take centuries to shift the mantle.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:30 PM by stikkinikki
Originally posted by Anuubis
reply to post by stikkinikki
And on dec. 21, 2012 the earth will be in a solar alignment with the sun and a black hole in the middle of our galaxy. It won't take centuries to shift the mantle.



We are already aligned as you say and we have been for some time. What sort of window of space do you suppose we will travel through in one day on 12/21/2012? I don't know what a solar alignment is as you reference it. Keep researching the 2012 stuff and Nostradamus stuff so you can find out the truth on these matters. Truth is always the goal.


reply posted on 4-12-2008 @ 01:37 PM by antar
I know this is not original but how much of our fate is selffulfilling prophecy? At what point do we learn to turn this around and begin to make changes not in the larger picture, but in the small things we do each day starting with our own thoughts dreams ideas and prayer?

In life it is never the big stuff that we remember and at the end of the day even count in our memories, it is always the little things that matter. A conversation with an older family member, watching our children take the first steps, falling in love, the first kiss. These are the little things that add up to showing us who we really are and what our awareness means.

Struggling to our bills , solving one crisis after another, worrying about the things which we have no control over, these are the things that take us away from ourselves and the things that matter most. They keep us on a basic survival level, and who can fight the good fight when they are anxiety ridden or hungry?

When things get so hectic and you just have no recourse, when you hit rock bottom, alone, tired or afraid, this is when we relax, when we turn back to something deeper and greater than ourselves. This is when we again are shown the opportunity to appreciate and see the small things we can be grateful for each day.

If you remember the source from which you came and to one day you will return, then your life takes on a different quality, one of a centered sense of knowing that everything is going to work out just fine in the big picture, and your job is to be just a grain of sand in the ocean of infinity.

A single grain of sand does not an island make. Yet without it, the island is an impossible dream.


reply posted on 5-12-2008 @ 09:19 AM by Anuubis
reply to post by salchanra

Yes! This is exactly where i wanted it to go. You get so many on here that keep talking about what they need to have or to do and it made me wonder who was actually ready. Thanks for your input.
If people are not ready, i was hoping to get them out of their complacency so they will get ready.
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