Originally posted by On the level
Giant Unexplained Crater Near Bombay
On the level,
Earlier in this thread Skyfloating bemoaned the absence of legitimate (to him) skepticism here.
I offer the above as an example of why thinking people avoid comment in threads such as this one.
The Lonar crater is not "unexplained" at all, as your own post indicates further down the page. So why do you refer to it as "unexplained?"
What is the point in providing another, skeptical, viewpoint here when such flat-out misrepresentations are so rife in this thread?
Originally posted by On the levelAnother curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly
circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to
nuclear warfare of antiquity.
No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in
basalt.
This is, in fact, another misrepresentation.
First of all, for a meteor crater to be "basaltic," it has to impact in an area where basalt is the local bedrock and where this bedrock is close
enough to the surface for the impact to affect it.
Why is this "special?"
Secondly, there is at least one other "basaltic" crater on land, and almost certainly there are the remains of several under the oceans, where bare
basalt rock has lain open to the water for millions of years.
The ~50,000 year old Lonar Crater, India, is one of the two known continental impact craters that were excavated on basalt.
source
My emphasis.
Third, there is no evidence whatsoever for any ancient nuclear weapons, much less for their use in any war.
Originally posted by On the levelIndications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat
(indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. David Hatcher Childress in Nexus Magazine
This intense "great shock" of 600 k atmospheres is very typical of a meteor impact. The info below is one column in a table of calculations of
various things like wave dissipation and energy and melt volume, etc, for various sizes of meteoric impact. The column shown gives the shock pressure
in pascals. One standard atmosphere = 101325 Pa. Your quote gives this pressure in atmospheres.
Pressure of Shock (Pa)
2.5E+11
5.625E+11
1E+12
1.5625E+12
2.25E+12
3.0625E+12
4E+12
5.0625E+12
6.25E+12
7.5625E+12
9E+12
1.05625E+13
1.225E+13
1.40625E+13
Source:
This table, a link to which can be found in
This paper on cratering from the University of Michigan.
Please note, the first (and lowest value) entry in the above column is 250,000,000,000 pascals. This equates to 250,000,000,000/101325 = 2,467,308
atmospheres, or about 4 times the "great shock" that Childress is raving about in your quote.
I say, ho hum. I also say, does no one in this thread have any evidence at all that tends to support the AAT over a mundane and well-understood
explanation?
Originally posted by On the level
It has remained relatively intact due to low degree of erosion by environmental agents, making it an excellent model for study. However, several
strange things happen here:
1. The lake has two distinct regions that never mix - an outer neutral (pH7) and an inner alkaline (pH11) each with its own flora and fauna. You can
actually do a litmus paper test here and check this for yourself.
That's certainly not unusual at all. The phenomenon described is a
chemocline.
It's presence is explained by the lack of fresh flowing water in the lake and the extreme protection of it's surface from the mixing action that
wind would cause, if the wind wasn't blocked by the crater rim and by the fact that it's on a plateau:
The unusual presence of Lonar crater amidst the vast monotonous plateau surrounding it from all sides has caused localised transition in the important
geographical, geological, climatic and thereby ecological parameters. Being a subterranean, hollow confined and closed from all sides:
1. It is protected from heavy wind blowing.
2. It retains higher humidity levels.
3. It forms a localised temperature system.
4. It gets partly screened from direct sunlight at different places and different times of the day, throughout the year...
International Society for Salt Lake Research
Originally posted by On the level2. There is a perennial stream feeding the lake with water but there seems to be no apparent outlet for
the lake’s water. And it is also a big unsolved mystery where the water for the perennial stream comes from, in a relatively dry region like
Buldhana. Even in the driest months of May and June, the stream is perpetually flowing. Lonar generates questions and more questions”. Lilyn
Kamath
Sure, questions from people that no nothing on the subject.
There is no "perpetual stream" feeding this lake, though it is fed by a few springs. It's mostly fed by runoff, according to actual Indian
citizens that actually live there and have actually studied the lake under the auspices of a scientific research project.
Note:
The district Buldhana, Maharashtra State, India provides geological interest for unique occurrence of picturesque Lonar crater, the only such in the
great basaltic province of India. The remarkable shape, size and uniqueness of crater lake at crater basin being saline has attracted the attention of
geologist, ecologists, archaeologists, naturalists and astronomists and has been the subject of several studies on various aspects of crater
ecosystem. This inland lake with no effluent is fed by a seasonal drainage mainly confined to it’s periphery and also by number of fresh water
springs. Maximum depth of brine is 5.50 meters. It is one of the prospective ‘Ramsar Site’ in India. Far from being a sterile wonder it
harbours an oasis of life within it’s womb.
Source:
International Society for Salt Lake Research
"Why don't the skeptics weigh in on the
real evidence?" Skyfloating asks.
Answer - it truly is a waste of time to try and reason with you. You simply refuse to read, or understand, what any skeptic says, attempting to
pre-emptively exclude a reasoned point of view from your every thread with your misrepresentations, mischaracterizations, and outright untruths
regarding what any "unbeliever" has to say.
The post I'm responding to here I chose for a reason. I wanted to point out the silly sensationalism that the post was brimming with regarding an
ordinary crater lake.
It strikes me that this is exactly the sort of thing that the AAT enthusiasts do with every fact they can come up with.
Well, that and lie about it, like the poster (once again) claiming that Baalbek was constructed by some unknown ancient culture.
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