Originally posted by meadowfairy
There are many studies to confirm that you get more nutrients out off organic produce then conventional fruits and veggies. This is why we should atleast grow our own food to avoid genetically modified organisms and irradiation. The other reasons for voided nutrients is because our soils have become so severely deficient that we need to supplement those sources that used to be high in the soil such as iodine, zinc, selenium etc. These can be obtained from superfoods and animal foods. Although i dont always condone eating animal foods if you want to heighten your spiritual path. I personally have no problem with it as i still eat it once a week with no change in my spiritual awareness.
Extra vitamins and minerals will be excreted but those needed by the body will be in full motion.
There is a big difference i have felt between eating raw and cooked. Cooked food now tastes dead to my body. I have also cured many ills that mainstream deems uncurable but which everyone fears talking about.

Originally posted by Solomons

Originally posted by meadowfairy
There are many studies to confirm that you get more nutrients out off organic produce then conventional fruits and veggies. This is why we should atleast grow our own food to avoid genetically modified organisms and irradiation. The other reasons for voided nutrients is because our soils have become so severely deficient that we need to supplement those sources that used to be high in the soil such as iodine, zinc, selenium etc. These can be obtained from superfoods and animal foods. Although i dont always condone eating animal foods if you want to heighten your spiritual path. I personally have no problem with it as i still eat it once a week with no change in my spiritual awareness.
Extra vitamins and minerals will be excreted but those needed by the body will be in full motion.
There is a big difference i have felt between eating raw and cooked. Cooked food now tastes dead to my body. I have also cured many ills that mainstream deems uncurable but which everyone fears talking about.

There is absolutely no evidence at all,yes there are more nutrients in uncooked foods vs cooked foods,but like i said the human digestive system is so poor at getting them that cooked vegetables still have enough nutrients for your body to absorb and still have some left to get rid of that it doesnt need.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
What we lack is an understanding of what foods really do to us because we don't actually know what anything does, in fact, to anything else. We only think we know because we think we know what we ought to observe. This gives us only the info we believe is correct because we don't actually know what we could see since we don't know what we aren't yet aware of.

Unfortunately, we have also polluted our environment, and likewise our bodies, to the extent that it's unlikely we can rectify the situation eating foods that would normally be good for us.

One thing we can leave by the wayside is the idea that we need the amounts and varieties of foods we've been told we do. Food can be thought of more as a corrective measure or an assimilation of our environment more than a sustenance. We can actually live very well without much food. What we miss is the events, the communing with other energies, that we have made part of dining.

To my experience, blessing food (focussed gratitude during preparation and consumption) causes the food to go farther, to be more satisfying and prevents spoilage. This is the conclusion I've come to over a four year "experiment" at home.

Food has always been a passion for me. I studied Medical Laboratory in my youth. I studied at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris. I worked at Dean & DeLuca in NYC for years. I ran a pastry business for many years here in the city where I live now.

I know the official line on microbes, nutrients, metabolism, etc. I know the concepts behind preparation, flavour/texture combining/contrasting, visual effects, etc. I also know that as a result of my awakening, what food really means. In fact, you can turn just about whatever quality of food into sustenance if needs be simply by blessing it.

Bless the food, thank if for its sacrifice and welcome it into your body fully and completely. Try to feel genuine love and gratitude to it and for it. Appreciate it. Chew it fully, completely, with love. Sense it fully. Feel everything you can. Let it be like a memorable conversation with a loved one or a dear friend.

When you start to learn more about foods in this way, you will know what to eat because your body will tell you. Sometimes it may be cooked, sometimes fresh. Sometimes you'll want only coffee and red wine. Other times it will be only steamed rice.


You will learn so much about so many things when you stop pressing your ideas and start to let ideas and concepts flow to you. I've said it in other respects just as I say it here: We know nothing about anything. Yet all the information and knowledge is there when we allow ourselves to receive it.

Originally posted by CaptainCaveMan
Raw food eating.
Being another way to hide vegetarians.
Is killing people.
Not helping them.
Human beings can NOT get the required amount of protein to form T cells just from vegetables.
Human beings require a diverse diet, not a limited diet.

Originally posted by siree
this is all really true i have experienced it. everyone knows that natural food is good for you but no one knows how much you will actually change and how much better you will feel if you only eat what is good, but you have to give it some time for all the junk to be out of your system.
eating raw veggies is good but yes, a lot of people's bodies have trouble with it. there is arguing about whether cooking veggies destroys the nutrients but it mostly depends on how and how long you cook them. this is how i see it. when you eat a raw carrot, you are eating something that is alive and full of energy. when you cook a carrot, you pretty much kill off all the life that was in it. it becomes something different. most people only care about nutritional value, well i am telling you that spiritual value is more important.
but you also have to know what works for you. if raw veggies upset your tummy then you are doing yourself no good by eating them. healthy food is only healthy if your body can handle it. the best way to cook veggies is steaming them. things like onions, garlic, tomatos, celery... don't eat them at all. though people say they are good for you they actually upset your system and put you into overdrive.
fresh fruit is also good. it is great for your system only if you eat fruit by itself. if you eat fruit with anything else it ferments in your stomach because your tummy digests fruit differently from other foods. it is best to eat it in the morning when your tummy is totally empty, that way the acid in it will give your tummy a jumpstart and help balance things out.
for years i had really bad acid reflux, and then a friend talked me into going on an all natural diet. i was on it for 2 weeks. after just a few days the reflux was totally gone, and even though i had to quit smoking, drinking, and coffee cold turkey for the diet, everyone was noticing that i was more calm and my concentration was a lot better. want to quit smoking? try an all natural diet.
on top of all that i was getting a lot of exercise and i had never felt so good in my life. my mind was so calm that i swear i could hear other people thinking. i felt like a superhero.
when 2 weeks was over i didn't really feel like eating junk food anymore. when i did i could really notice a difference, and how much like crap i feel after i eat anything that is not natural. i will say that right now i am about %90 still on the diet and i am doing pretty good. it is only when i eat junk food that i do not feel at my best. there is very clearly a bad affect from it. i feel really sorry for people who eat mcdonalds every day.
everyone should try this. at first it is not easy and it takes a lot of self control, but it is real and true and if you give it enough time and do it right you will be very happy you did.

Originally posted by Solomons
Spiritual value is just alot of crap,humans have been cooking food since we knew how to create fire...other animals are biologically built to take lots of nutrients from plant matter,we are not because we are omnivores....not herbivores.But yes i agree its how you cook the vegetables,i was thinking that was a given...obviosuly if you boil a vegetable for 4 hours it isnt going to be too good for you.But cooking normally there is still enough nutrients for your body to absorb,eating raw vegetables your body still takes the nutrients it needs then discards the rest....this is something people fail to understand...

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
I really don't know why that reply to button doesn't work but this is my reply to you, meadowfairy.

My reply to your OP was to say that this is all entirely possible given the right conditions vis-a-vis the frame of mind. That's actually the only thing that is important. If a person is convinced they need meat and potatoes daily, they will most certainly need it. It's an addiction of sorts. You believe it is good for you and so it is, no matter what any other evidence may tell you. That's why scientific study is useless. It's also why whole foods are good for some and for others it's a form of torture.

It won't be long before we can't afford the foods we're used to eating. The only way to adapt to this change will be to change your relationship to food. Stop *demanding* from it and start *accepting* it in its entirety.

As for the poster up there who says we can't get enough protein from whole foods, that's absolute rubbish. We need only a fraction of the proteins we're offered in our diets.