posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 04:18 PM
Originally posted by plumranch
The lack of understand in the Obama voting electorate is apalling! How could this people be so misled? See for yourself! Watch
How Obama Got Elected and you will understand how uneducated these people are.
From your link:
On November 4th, 2008 millions of Americans were shocked that a man of Barack Obama's limited experience, extreme liberal positions and radical
political alliances could be elected President of the United States. For many of these Americans, the explanation was rather simple... the news media,
completely enamored with Obama, simply refused to do their job.
They opened with a nice little bit of propaganda here... so we can already see their confirmation bias and lack of objectivity. We Obama supporters
couldn't possibly have made an informed decision. No, sir. We were just misled by that vast left-wing media. Check.
From same link:
On Election day twelve Obama voters were interviewed extensively right after they voted to learn how the news media impacted their knowledge of
what occurred during the campaign. These voters were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions
to a large audience. The rather shocking video below seeks to provide some insight into which information broke through the news media clutter and
which did not.
Wow, a whole twelve voters!
Chosen for their "apparent intelligence/verbal abilities"... huh? Based on what criteria did they make these
determinations? Doesn't say. How many were willing but didn't meet these rigorous conditions? Doesn't say. How many were willing, and met these
conditions, but were edited out because they answered the questions correctly? Doesn't say.
I wonder if we could find some partisans from the other side, to make an equally specious case? Nah, that's probably just my
With respect to your "you will understand how uneducated these people are" lets check the numbers, shall we:
According to Gallup
Obama won the majority of postgraduates [64-36%]. So the most educated people in our country overwhelmingly voted for Obama. The only group that
McCain made advances with (wrt the 2004 election) was those with no college education.
Should be an image (graph) here, if it's still not showing go to Gallup link-Rren
In almost every category, Obama beat McCain. Surely this is not all because of the media.... at the very least
you can't base this of this
survey of twelve people by an anti-Obama organization.
Here is the Zogby Post Election Poll that proves it: Zogby Poll
If you think you are politically astute then thank your luck stars! Apparently most of your neighbors aren't. Only 2% of Obama voters rated high in
terms of correct answers to the poll!
That poll created by wingnut John Ziegler purporting to demonstrate that Obama voters were misinformed by the mainstream media about Barack Obama and
Joe Biden (and defended so scatalogically by Ziegler) has been examined by objective polling experts beyond Nate Silver now, and the verdict is
Wall Street Journal:
"..Interpreted the numbers from the survey in a misleading fashion."
The Zogby summary quotes Ziegler claiming that "the poll really proves beyond any doubt the stunning level of malpractice on the part of the
media in not educating the Obama portion of the voting populace."
The problem, as Silver points out, is that the survey does no such thing. It proves only that Obama voters surveyed were less likely to attribute
to Obama or Biden a half dozen statements that were "at best debatable, yet apparently represented as factual to the respondent" ...
... Describing his biased, leading questions as a legitimate test of knowledge is hugely misleading, at best.
Even John Zogby himself is running from this survey, claiming it was put together
while he was on vacation.
Actually, as we already pointed out, the questions were far
from 100 percent accurate, and in many cases were nearly 100 percent inaccurate:
-- Joe Biden's plagiarism: While it's true that the media swirl around the "plagiarism" story probably drove him from the 1987 primary
campaign, Biden was in fact cleared of those charges.
-- Obama kicked opponents off the ballot: Also false.
-- Obama wants to bankrupt the coal industry? Complete
-- Obama and Ayers: The claim he began his political career in Ayers' living room is
false: "Ayers was one of many who sponsored coffees for Obama in 1995 when he
declared for the Illinois Senate. The official campaign launch occurred at the Hyde Park Ramada. Their relationship barely goes beyond serving
together on an education foundation board in Chicago."
So what the wingnuts are complaining about is the fact that the news media, for some strange, unknown reason, failed to pick up these
falsehoods and loudly broadcast them as factual.
(emphasis mine)So, you were saying?
[edit on 22-11-2008 by Rren]