There is a good chance that George W. Bush is the rider on the white horse.

ver very good red. just a few things to say:

firstly, i dont know why you linked the second horse to bush. what makes you think that this horse will be one of our presidents? it sounds like a theory but no evidence was presented.

secondly, the first beast may represent the oppsite of righteousness- the anti christ. this is because satan can come as an angel of light, and also because this horse sounsds like an imitation of the white horse that Yeshua sits on with a SWORD (not a bow) and goes out conquering righteously, not to conqeur.

other than that... ii dont think there is anything else to say. very good. and thank you so much for the greek words that you have given.

shalom- john

Written to the Christians of the day, they were given prophecy to enable them to determine what was to come.

The four horses represent the Roman Empire, as does many of trumpets that are blown. It's done in generalities, then further in Revelation, we get more detail.

This is just a broad sweep of the Roman Empire.

The White horse, the rider, the symbols are of great victory. Rome had not reached its peak and glory yet. Look at the symbols. They are different from a Christ. They are symbols of warfare and victory.

Then we have the Red Horse, signifying coming war and defeat. Look at the symbols that go with this horse and compare to the Roman Empire.

The Black Horse. Black is the color of mourning. The balances used for weighing food are a symbol of scarcity, shortages, and famine. Bread by weight always implies scarcity. (Leviticus 26:26, Ezekial 4: 16, 17. The prices also signify the same.

The first and second horses mark distinct epochs, but the third and fourth are not as easily determined timewise. The occurrences symbolized by each seal follow each other in the same order as the seals, but events overlap, and are related to each other as cause and effect. During the terrible period of civil war commotion, indicated by the red horse, the era of blood and anarchy produces the events symbolized by the black horse, and as the combined result of the two preceding seals there follow the events indicated by the pale horse.

There is a period of extreme taxation, enormous prices, great scarcity, want and famine, due to the destruction of armies and the untilled fields during a period of civil war of ninety-two years. There is FIRST the civil war as a cause, and SECOND the scarcity and famine as the effect.

The next horse? Read the tenth chapter of the first volume of Gibbon's Rome.

Famine is almost always followed by epidemical diseases, the effect of scanty and unwholesome food.

If we're going to turn to Bible prophecy, it is always good to make sure that all symbols fit with other symbols.

To assume that A) Revelation prophecy is an all-time application and will NEVER come true is a mistake, and B) that one can cherry-pick visions and symbols and apply them alone, ignoring the others IN SEQUENCE.

Oh, it makes for great fun trying to fit a symbol or vision to current events, but if so, all other symbols must maintain their chronological order, and must FIT in context with secular history.

Boring I know, but wild speculation does no one any good.

Extremely well-written & certainly a plausible exegesis. I especially appreciated your knowledge and explanation of the root wording.

I thought Napolean was a bit of a stretch until I read the rest, and then looking back he would fit nicely. That China may play some-such a role as regards the U.S. first suggested itself to me as teen and has never left.

I--like many others have confessed here--am certainly no Bibllical scholar, but I do believe that the Word is "Alive" as it claims about its own self and that prophecy can often be interpreted on many different levels and be true for multiple periods in history as well as predict varied events within the same text. God is "down like that" and I find it a mind-blowing aspect of his personality.

So I think your postulation is very reasonable.

One thing is fairly certain about these times: ITEOTWAWKI...and I feel fine.

One of the best OPs I read since I've been here, Redneck. S&F