I am astounded at the impact this is having around the world and in a positive way. Millions of folks, flooding the streets from every border of the United States..... every color, every religion. I have never seen anything of this magnitude of unification since 9/11. A politician, yes.... unproven, yes.... but I think this is a time for optimism and hope for America and all Americans. It is also a time for our allies to have hope again in us.

Obama may not be the answer...... he may fail miserably....... but I for one will give him time to earn the faith and the vote of confidence that has been placed on his shoulders. It is easy to be armchair politicians, smugly sipping our drinks and pleading our rants of doom to come......

Sorry, but call me an old softie..... but having witnessed something tonight that I would have never thought America was capable of even 10 years ago..... gives me personally a flicker of hope that maybe we aren't as dumb as every other country in the world thinks we are. Tonight we have proved that we can go beyond color, we can go beyond religion.... and whether the majority of voters turn out to be right or wrong..... all of us have experienced something historical.

JMFO, of course.

Dave

I know that Obama and Biden are puppets, but if anyone else hasn't noticed the amount of people waking up to the real world has been increasing alot. The negative ones will be destroyed.

Originally posted by Dave Rabbit
I am astounded at the impact this is having around the world and in a positive way. Millions of folks, flooding the streets from every border of the United States..... every color, every religion. I have never seen anything of this magnitude of unification since 9/11. A politician, yes.... unproven, yes.... but I think this is a time for optimism and hope for America and all Americans. It is also a time for our allies to have hope again in us.

Obama may not be the answer...... he may fail miserably....... but I for one will give him time to earn the faith and the vote of confidence that has been placed on his shoulders. It is easy to be armchair politicians, smugly sipping our drinks and pleading our rants of doom to come......

Sorry, but call me an old softie..... but having witnessed something tonight that I would have never thought America was capable of even 10 years ago..... gives me personally a flicker of hope that maybe we aren't as dumb as every other country in the world thinks we are. Tonight we have proved that we can go beyond color, we can go beyond religion.... and whether the majority of voters turn out to be right or wrong..... all of us have experienced something historical.

JMFO, of course.

Dave

Exactly my feelings
Dont you think he is the first politician you can -or want to- trust? I am convinced that no matter how many threats and corruption he is going to face, he will stick for what he stands for.

So... ummm.... when does the Patriot Act get repealed?
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Originally posted by SilentShadow
What a fantastic and charismatic speech...

A brilliant communicator makes for a brilliant leader.

Adolf Hitler?

Force of Personality, Oratory and Charisma does not make a great leader, but they do make great dictators and cult leaders.

I'm not saying Obama is Hitler. I'm just saying one should not base brilliance on oratory and charisma.

The Libertarian response to this is truly amazing.

I hope this is the beginning of something better. 2008, someone other than us white folks finally takes office. How long did it take? We have needed a good leader of color in the white house. Really, this isn't a country made up of only white people. We need someone in office who can help tear down the racist walls. I hope Obama is that leader.

Obama will still have to prove himself as a good leader of this nation, as with anyone who steps into office. It is his actions and the results of his actions that will show all of us if he will be a good leader.

The truth is, I didn't vote. I don't think I had enough real information about any of the guys running to make a good decision. When you are dealing with politics, you sometimes don't know what is the truth. You throw media coverage in there, and it is a circus. Add to this, that the other candidates were so overshadowed by Obama and McKain, that you didn't even know they existed.

No matter the color, I just want someone in office, who has "eyes," and can see truth, and will do something about it. Did you ever hear Bush saying anything about the lies surrounding 911? Nope, I guess he went right along with everything.

This is your chance my friend, be the leader we have needed.

Troy



[edit on 5-11-2008 by cybertroy]

I feel the need to point out only one thing.
While Obama made a very brilliant speech, it lacked one important thing.
He said much about this great nation, about our history, about coming together for the common good, about sacrifice, and about his struggle. It has already been pointed out that he sounds similar to a certain political figure from a dark time in history, so I won't repeat it.

I will, however, point out that among all of the words in his speech tonight, he never once used the word "freedom."

Just put aside his charismatic manner of speech and think about that.

[edit on 5-11-2008 by Malfeitor]

Originally posted by Gools
So... ummm.... when does the Patriot Act get repealed?
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Lol, yeah, if he repeals that, I'll eat my words, I know he won't though.

He may come up with a new bill, here are the three different names it may have:

1. The Prosperity Bill (which will put us even more into the poor house).

2. The Security Bill (which will make us unable to defend ourselves)

3. The Patriot Act 3: Judgment Day (lol, ok maybe without the "Judgment Day thing, but know how both Patriot Acts 1 and 2 went, we could guess how 3 would turn out)

And of course, he will most likely make sure that HR1955 passes in Senate somehow, he'll use his sorcery on them lol.

Oh man, I really wonder what his first bill will be, or what he first does in office, exciting and scary times.

-Lahara

Obama imo, is going to be a President that gets things done. He has been preparing for taking office for a long while. He was meeting with the homeland security tonight on urgent matters. He is organizing his administration tomorrow. He is a man that doesn't want the office because of the office, he wants it because he really wants to change things.

It's impossible to make everyone happy with the choices he has to make. But I'm confident that he'll be making choices that he and his administration feel are in the countries best interest. And I think they are savvy, intelligent, clever, and he was very wise to take a VP that has extensive experience in foreign policy.

As far as people (whoever mentioned it in this thread) who question his saying we need to make sacrifices and get our hands dirty: I can only assume you are the folks that want everything handed to you on a silver platter. You feel as an American, you deserve everything, without giving anything. That imo, is a poisonous attitude that America DOES need to rid itself of. You do realize that most countries consider us arrogant, lazy, selfish and spoiled, right? As opposed to prior decades when Americans worked their butts off to try and make us great. I'm sorry you feel that you deserve everything, without giving anything. I guess you feel if you must do something outside of your own little sphere, it's a grand conspiracy and a horrible inconvenience.

I don't think you realize how good you have it. When I served jury duty and then grand jury duty (for 18 months), I was amazed at the whining Americans who complained. I was apalled by the people I talked to who felt it was their DUTY to make up some lame excuse to not serve. People don't realize what a great privledge it is to be able to choose to be judged by a jury of your peers. There are so many countries that would give their left eye for that right. And this is the lazy, "I deserve everything and should have to give nothing" attitude I hope that Obama helps start to abolish. If you want to live as a hermit in the mountains, fine, go do that. But if you want to participate in a nation that has amazing rights and privledges, I suggest you stop thinking it's a conspiracy when the President Elect asks for sacrifice, but instead, say "Ok.. I want to rebuild, what can I do."

Originally posted by Gools
So... ummm.... when does the Patriot Act get repealed?
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Wait, that would actually be change! There will be no repeal of the Patriot Act, or the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, or the warrant-less surveillance of american citizens. The change he'll bring will be in the form of carbon taxes, and gun grabbing. Maybe even a North American Union. Oh yeah, the Obama Youth too. That's probably what he was referring to in his speech.

Truly a historic day, my pride in this country is at a all time high.

Hey, I was listening to Coast to Coast last night, I was on my way home and missed the intros etc...
But they said that the guy that will guide Obama's transition into the presidency, is a big advocate of full disclosure. To keep the hope and build trust in the gov't again, he was expecting full disclosure, by spring 2009. Unless something big, like 911, happens between now and then.

He was the same guy that pushed for it, during Clinton's administration...until the alleged BJ. haha.

Anyways, I'll look up all of the information when I get home from work and try to provide links and stuff...unless someone already knows what I'm talking about.

Also, I'd like to add a funny comment I heard, while talking about the election.
I'm from Canada. During some talk about the elections, I heard someone say..." So, do they really want a dude, that was a P.O.W. running a country, when they are at war and he is still suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder? What is the other option? " and when he heard the "black" comment he cringed a little, and said "Well, hopefully the United States has grown up some".

Who knows.
In any case, I'm all for full disclosure.
Congrats on your new president. Hope he doesn't suck.

Many of us will remember Obama's words after he won the South Carolina primary, almost a year ago:

... we will begin the next great chapter in America's story with three words that will ring from coast to coast; from sea to shining sea - Yes. We. Can.

In his speech tonight, he was true to his word... as usual.

Eye Witness to History

I watched the results come in on New Zealand TV a couple of channels had coverage . I'm not a huge fan of Obama I don't like the signs that I have seen so far never the less I will give the guy the fair crack that he deserves . I thought that McCain gave a graceful concession speech which stands him in good stead in my eyes .

Cheers xpert11 .