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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:32 AM by Frankidealist35
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WAKE UP PEOPLE
I have a good feeling here. I don't want to kill everyone's optimism here. I think Obama will be good and he will do good things for the world.
It's a historic moment, no doubt. The first black President has been elected into office. Well, guess what people! THE BILDERBURG GROUP and all of
these other conspiracies still exist, and, the UN, and, all these other nations are still trying to get an NWO. I don't think there will be an NWO
in our life time, but, I think Barack Obama will be good for the world. I think while he may not be a miracle savior like some people suggest I think
he's an honest guy, and, he really cares about the country.
It's a good thing he's inexperienced. If he was experienced you would see that this man would be for change but you would see NWO rhetoric in his
speech.
I can tell you that this man is not an actor for the NWO. Hillary Clinton was an actress for the NWO, but, she didn't win.
I must say, keep your tinfoil hats on people, if Obama tries to make changes they don't want, the NWO WILL SHUT HIM DOWN.
I conclude that Obama will be good for the country, not a Bilderburg puppet, but, if he does something they don't like, he'll probably be killed,
so, watch out for that.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:33 AM by Mr Mota
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This is a surreal moment in American history.
I hope we can move into the future with feelings of pride for our actions as a nation, the world deserves better from us, we can be the great nation
that we all believe to be impossible.
This is a good time to be alive. I'll be pleased if we can help each other to enjoy our short time we have during our lives. Idealism is not dead in
America, nor shall it die as a human purpose that lives throughout the world.
Cheers to the people.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:37 AM by Frankidealist35
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I'm just saying... while Obama promises change and all...
Like JFK... if he makes too many changes the govt doesn't like... and criticizes them too much he'll be shut down.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Magnus47
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Originally posted by Mr Mota
...we can be the great nation that we all believe to be impossible.
I don't know who you're referring to, but I never once believed it to be impossible. I'm reminded of an African-American girl on TV who, after
watching Obama lose an important primary vote, asserted that for a moment there, she really thought it was possible an African-American could become
president... but she supposed she was wrong, she must have been a fool for being so optimistic, how dare she think he had any hope of winning, etc,
etc.
Well, tonight I'd say we've witnessed a victory, not for those who didn't see any reason to believe in our nation, but for those who did.
P.S. Nothing against McCain supporters, either... personally I thought McCain was also a fine choice. In fact this is the first time I've
participated in an election in which the two major candidates were also my personal favorite choices from each party.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:42 AM by IAF101
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There are no "people" other than the people of America.
While this is a conspiracy site that encourages that sort of thing, I find it to be ludicrious to continue to blame an unseen foe without any facts.
Obama is the president-elect. No cabal in America can really dictate to him what the "path" is. The American people have given him their trust and
their hopes. Should he falter, they will hold his feet to the fire.
This is a vote for hope and progress rather than Obama as a person or the Democratic party.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:46 AM by Magnus47
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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I'm just saying... while Obama promises change and all...
Like JFK... if he makes too many changes the govt doesn't like... and criticizes them too much he'll be shut down.
Considering the government itself has just been uprooted and flooded with Obama supporters, I wonder if this is really as big a threat as you suggest.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:47 AM by Frankidealist35
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What unseen foe? What facts are missing? Are you talking about the NWO? If so, you should realize that there are a lot of facts on the subject.
I'm an Obama supporter but I'm not going to go all "OMG OMG Obama won America is great again" like all the other people in the thread here yet.
I'm going to keep an eye on him and see what he does and see if there is any connection to what he does and what the NWO wants.
But, I'm remaining optimistic.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:48 AM by GamerGal
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Ok, after coming back inside after screaming at the top of my lungs I've read through every thing. Amazing some people can be such party poopers. As
pointed when McCain mentioned Obama's name people booed, when Obama mentions McCain people clapped and cheered a little. Classy if you ask me. Just
like John McCain. He ignores the months of negative ads attacking Obama and speaks from the heart. He wants what is best for this nation and is
ready to follow Obama and make sure he sticks to his word to change and help America. Does no one else realize how amazing this is? In Africa they
have military coups for less than this. In South East Asia the military is ordered to slaughter the people who support the other guy. In our own
past Obama would have been killed for being uppity and McCain would have been dead due to illness and old age. But today, tonight, we had a historic
moment. A black man looked at the ballot and saw his name under President. AMericans across the country looked at a ballot and saw an black man's
name. And on the other side people looked down and saw a man who nearly died for his country. Dwight D. Eisenhower fought for America. McCain
fought for America. But Ike never had to deal with being tortured by the enemy. McCain was in a cage maybe even begging for death. But earlier
today he came within a few electoral votes from being President. He looked down at a ballot and saw John McCain under the choice for President.
Would any of us, locked in a cage with brutal injuries and being tortured believe one day we could look down at a ballot and see our name for
President? I wrote Ron Paul in but damn it McCain and Obama have been part of a historical election and one achieved a dream and one came close. And
the loser did not call for recounts, election fraud, or like some countries revenge. No he tried to rally his followers behind the winner so we migh
be able to help America, unite it. He went out, conceded the race, congratulated the man who was his bitter enemy for months, and declared he would
serve under this new President as best he could to make sure America was helped and not harmed by this new President.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:48 AM by Frankidealist35
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You would be surprised at how many racist people are still left here in the country.
I would keep my eye out on which states Obama visits during his Presidency. I bet he'll try to avoid the more racist states. If times haven't
really changed there will be racist people out there, or, people like those John McCain supporters who disagree with his policies (a heck of a lot),
that will want to kill him.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:50 AM by Diplomat
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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I'm just saying... while Obama promises change and all...
Like JFK... if he makes too many changes the govt doesn't like... and criticizes them too much he'll be shut down.
What the hell are you talking about???
He's already on their side!!!
Just look at his advisors and possible cabinet positions!
Robert Rubin?!?!?!?! 5th Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations... close friend of Alan Greenspan...
It is so transparantly obvious what is going on!!!!
Wake up people, we've been hoodwinked again!
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:50 AM by MikeboydUS
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The government hasn't been uprooted.
The real government, the Bureaucrats who have been working in various agencies and departments for the last 20-30 years, especially the military are
not going anywhere. Some of those guys at the Pentagon and the military industries they deal with have watched presidents come and go for the last 40
years.
They'll all still be there when Obama leaves and another takes office.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:55 AM by Frankidealist35
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A lot of people in the DOD are conservatives.
There are plenty of people in the government saying that this is just the beginning of socialism in the USA and the death of the nation.
I'm sure there are going to be SOME people that want to shut him down for spreading the truth about the middle class of America and how the rich are
just getting an easy ride.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:57 AM by MetatronCubensis
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What the hell are you talking about???
He's already on their side!!!
Just look at his advisors and possible cabinet positions!
Robert Rubin?!?!?!?! 5th Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations... close friend of Alan Greenspan...
It is so transparantly obvious what is going on!!!!
Wake up people, we've been hoodwinked again!
Exactly, it's not like he's going to abolish the Federal Reserve or anything. Look where his big money came from: Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan,
CitiGroup, etc.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 12:59 AM by BlasteR
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I agree with what you just said to a degree. But if Americans truly had attention deficit disorder then Obama wouldn't have gotten elected in the
first place. People are so desparate for a restoration of hope in American politics (not to mention hope for ourselves and our kids given the
economic situation). And that restoration of hope requires sweeping change from what has become the norm under the Bush administration. The entire
issue of change as a slogan is behind us.. Now is the time for that change to start becoming reality..
My only concern is that so much has been promised and the promises of change from Obama are a little more complicated than flipping a switch in the
oval office and making things from bad to good. There will inevitably be change.. the only question is how much and how many people are against it
because of what it implies. Every legislation involving change is fought by one party or another... That's just how it works. Obama will
inevitably be criticized and blamed.. That's part of what a President does.
What I want to see is how Obama can do everything he wants to do without making the situation worse for the average American. We need to be willing
to give him a chance to make things better for ourselves and our kids.
-ChriS
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:05 AM by bagels13
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:08 AM by mattguy404
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Pathetic.
Not a one liner.
Again, kudos to America for picking Obama over another war monger and a lady who can see Russia from her house.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:15 AM by clay2 baraka
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Indiana just went Obama. Wow, I did not see that coming. Obama was projected to lose by 4-5%.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:19 AM by The Savage Khan
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This is truly amazing. I was moved to tears by what I was seeing on TV, what I heard outside my window. You cannot help but be optimistic. All those
conspiracy theories still exist but maybe this once this is real. I think it feels real. I'm gonna say it feels real. Still, lets see who he picks
for his cabinet.
go ahead, say it, just try it out;
yes we can.
feels good.
God bless America
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:22 AM by clay2 baraka
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I went out to a brewery. It was a packed crowd. At least a hundred people in the room stood up and cheered during the Obama speech. Wow. I have
seen those kinds of scenes acted out in the movies, but never in real life. . .
Wow.
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reply posted on 5-11-2008 @ 01:23 AM by Sillyfool
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It is not unreasonable to assume that the media had the graphics ready with the predetermined numbers ready. THink about it, how can they call an
election if areas have not stoped voting and how can a state be called if 1% are reporting? Look at CA, only the big cities vote Dem by majority and
the other 90% of the state is red. WTF? How can you figure that percentage so soon? YOU CAN'T! IT is rigged. There is no way that they get the
results so fast. A few years ago in San Francisco ballot boxes ended up in the bay, with the damn ballots! Below is a nice video by Don Harrold
pointing out that MSNBC is calling states with 0% reporting! Do you really need more evidence?
www.youtube.com...
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