Originally posted by JayTaylor
and you guys are using that to debunk the entire video?

You got it Debunking by killing one wild theory in favor of another wild theory is silly.

very interesting stuff. ok ok 2012 is 99.99% bogus let's just let it go. it's entertainment just enjoy it while it lasts. if the world happens to blow up or we all grow a third foot out of our foreheads then even better.

good people do good things..

bad people do bad things..


but, it takes religion for good people to do bad things

Originally posted by mandrake
But seriously why do people want to debunk everything these days? Is it so fun to prove some one wrong and rub it in their faces and say "Nah na na na nah! I was right you were wrong, I'm so much better than you are"?

It has nothing to do with being "better".

It is because these "predictions" are fear mongering threads.
Many people view threads like these and make life changing decisions.

This isn't the only culprit, there are literally hundreds of postings on Martial Law, Bush attacking Iran, Food running out, The CIA coming to get you., Mar bases, SARS virus, new AIDS coming to get you. Government poisoning you.. Chemtrails controlling your mind...world ending on the 10th, the 12th or two days from the last time we said it would.

On and on and on..



There is a new boogeyman on ATS every single day and the poster is SO SURE of what he is spewing that he calls anyone with a different (read: rational) viewpoint on it a government plant!

These kinds of threads (2012) instill fear and uncertainty.

Personally I get really mad at some of them, to the point of nausea..The posts are so convincing (to some) that they run out and spend their hard earned money on rice and water jugs, duck tape and MRE's, they scare their families and what little friends they have left (after years on ATS) Just because some lame-o came up with a sounds about right theory about nothing.


THAT is why we skeptics.. "debunk" (at least, why I do)
is that so bad? if it weren't us..who then?

I, myself, can end the world if I wanted to.

Just gotta have some time to plot on where to steal nukes and how to place them in the mantle.

Originally posted by die_another_day
Just gotta have some time to plot on where to steal nukes and how to place them in the mantle.

Well I can show you where... but your on your own after that

Here is the US Nuke storage in the Netherlands... Nothing much around it kinda quiet area.... Seems Google doesn't want you to look though







[edit on 3-11-2008 by zorgon]

I appreciate your post.


One thing, "it only matters from the perspective of earth", all earthly calendars only apply to earth. The precession, cycles, or ages do not matter to mars or any other planet. So that specific alignment, measured from earth is significant to earthlings, measure it from mars and will be slightly different and equally significant. I see your point though.

2012 is something to look into...Something will happen on a totally different scale though, it ultimately has nothing to do with stars and skys, but those are the actual markers of this event. One cannot figure out the splendor and technological advancements of the
Mayan/Olmec/Incan/Zapotec bloodline with modern history, you have to dig way deep.

All of the "civilizations" mentioned above, DID NOT develop the techniques, tools,or systems of measurements to make the equations, monuments, and predictions. They simply 'found' or they were 'taught' by travelers from the east. One can mess around through the ashes and put together the pieces and figure out some pretty farfetched facts. For example look up the "xiuhcoatl" which would translate to something like "fiery serpent", it was a weapon that projected 'fire' and 'dismembered' bodies. They were not 'primitives' like history suggest. But.......I can go on for hours about real history, Im just trying to say if they marked that date, it is of a greater significance than a lousy light show.
Sure, whoever may have recognized precession before, but can anyone name a calendar 20-40,000 years old that accurately predicts modern valcanos, who ever taught the mayans did just that.

So at the end of my long journey, I agree, the planetX-polar-shift is a pretty big leap. The mag-poles are shifting as we speak, there are a nice amount of bodies(that can be classified as planets) beyond pluto and the oort cloud, If the galatic centre were to align "a certain way" harmful rays almost some-million times that of the most harmful ray of the sun will 'sweep' earth, and global warming is occuring throughout the solar system not just earth,so.....Those are facts to sit on. Great Post
sorry for typos
Peace-Love



[edit on 3-11-2008 by AKINOFTHEFIRSSTARS]