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Originally posted by Amenti
The title pretty much says it all
Google Video Link
or if you prefer YouTube, here is part one, and part two
you can download it in WMV format here
feel free to upload it anywhere.
I have been hearing this stuff for so long I thought it was true too.
I did a lot of research for this one and I was surprised to find out what i did, which is that most of what we are told about 2012 has no basis in reality..seriously.
Here are a few points I hit.
Solstice sun galactic alignment
actual galactic alignment
possible reasons for the deception.
Here are some of my references
References:The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane
Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field
The Planet X Saga: The Scientific Arguments in a Nutshell
Response to Counterarguments Appendix 5 to Maya Cosmo genesis 2012 by John Major Jenkins
Texas A&M Oceanographer Challenges Plate Tectonics As Reason For Poles' Shift
What is that pole shift thing?
The Myth of a 12th Planet:
A Brief Analysis of Cylinder Seal VA 243
precession of the equinoxes
Our Galactic Plane
MEANING OF THE BALL GAME IN MAYAN MYTHOLOGY
Great Celestial Conjunction Crosses
The World Age cosmology of the Maya calendar end-date in A.D.2012 and its basis in a rare astronomical alignment of the solstice sun with the Milky Way Galaxy
Planetary Alignments: Fact or Fiction?
The Platonic Year & the
Maya Long Count: Fractal
Confused about 2012 (yes, another one!)
Planet X? Nope, an admitted hoax!
positon on galactic plane
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EDIT: fixed links
[edit on 1-11-2008 by Amenti] [/quote
Heh. The bible stuff is BS. Sure, all the ld testaement prophecies were fulfilled, seeing as how the writers of the NT had acess to the OT. not impressed.
that and most of te new testament wasnt even written until after christ had allegedly died. about 70 years later infact.
the christian concept of God is just one of many thousands of "Gods" that have existed throughout history, used by eons to try and explain things they didnt know or cope with the fear of death.
christ tels his follows, numerous times, also, that his second coming would be during their lifetime. did it happen? no.
[edit on 2-11-2008 by NavalFC]
Originally posted by fleabit
reply to post by ElectricUncleSam
Why would they? There is a series of events over the last 20 years that could be attributed to global warming. It's kind of hard to miss melting glaciers, ice shelves falling off, and holes in our ozone. There is absolutely nothing that points to any event in 2012. Why would anyone become aware of it?
Originally posted by dampnickers
reply to post by -zeropoint-
The most amuzing thing though is that you seem to be a proponent of the idea of 2012, by your remarks. If you aren't do accept my apologies.
Now, the fact that we "skeptics", do not agree with the premises offered by 2012 doom-merchants, changes nothing. The alleged 'evidence' provided by these people just does not stand up to common sense, or empirical evidence (i.e. FACT).
So, what I would like someone that is a proponent of 2012 to do, is show me how they know that the doom and gloom predicted will occur. What evidence is there (and I mean real evidence here) to show that these events will happen when predicted?
I have a suspicion that most people will shy away from answering that, or give a blind and vague answer.
Originally posted by common-sense
I wouldn't mind seeing a list of all the Bible prophecies that supposedly were 100% accurate and included not only the exact countries in the wars but correct names as well...
Originally posted by
"Satan" succeeded in TRICKING YOU ALL,
who would have thought such stupid trick would work, unbelievable!
Devil gave you your Bible, Torah and Koran pretending to be your god - it is ONE and the same "GOD", its one and the SAME BOOK, you religious fools!!
you were actually given the THREE BOOKS of WAR, three KILLING MANUALS - have you not noticed your god is murderous psychopath, full of REVENGE and VANITY ?!
--- Score in Bible / Torah / Koran ---
GOD: ~1,400,000 KILLS
(not counting flood, fiery serpents and other mass-murders)
have you not noticed your GOD, ALLAH and YAHWEH... have all the attributes of the DEVIL?!
welcome to HELL
Originally posted by -zeropoint-
I agree, the Golden Age is about to come. After many research and personal facts and spirituality, I can confirm this to myself.
Originally posted by Oldtimer2
Yes it's kind of hard to say something was debunked when it hasn't happened yet,I have my suspicions but will have to wait to see end result