Would you release all those records for public review?

If I give you a link, will u upload your birth cert, school transcripts, and all the information you are demanding of Obama?

Can i have experts analyze it and distribute it on the internet?

Let me know, i'll give you a link and you can upload it to my website.

A little bit off topic, but you would think Palin would have had plenty of time to fudge her medical records by now and release them. Oh, I guess it was a miracle from God that her tubiligation from 6 years ago reversed itself.

Originally posted by nj2day

Can i have experts analyze it and distribute it on the internet?

Let me know, i'll give you a link and you can upload it to my website.

Would you release all those records for public review?

If I want your VOTE I would think so but for "some" people, just being charming is good enough for them

If I give you a link, will u upload your birth cert, school transcripts, and all the information you are demanding of Obama?

All that would prove is that I am willing to prove who I am and in the end Obama will not have shed anymore light on who he is, what country he was born in etc. But I guess having my almamatter verify that I do infact have a record, is good enough for "some" people out there.

Originally posted by Areal51


So view the issue how you would like. Pretend that you are the employer of politicians. Pretend you have the ability to run background checks. Pretend you have the authority to demand disclosure. Pretend all those things, and whatever else, when it is clear that you are not enabled in any capacity except to post rubbish on the board of ATS.

Whatever.

Pretend that you are the employer of politicians.

Well at least until the Obama Regime converts our Government from one of the people by the people for the people to one called an Obama Nation where we are all like the collective nation or the borg.

As of right now, yeah guy, THEY work for US and if you don't get that then it is YOU who lives in an imaginary world where the Constitution doesn't exist and never did.

Pretend you have the ability to run background checks

Hey guy, I know Jobs that won't hire you unless you submit to drug tests and polygrapgh tests etc. some won't hire you if your credit is bad. All someone has to do to impress you is say the word "Change" you can believe in and you just take his word for it or you really DON'T think you have a right to know the truth much less prove it.

it is clear that you are not enabled in any capacity except to post rubbish on the board of ATS.

Ya know what rubbish is? Rubbish is someone who criticizes everything I say yet hasn't given me any reasons I should vote for Obama and it is because you are no differen't than I am, at least in that regard as you really don't know JACK about that guy. You just follow him out of blind allegiance because what you know about Obama you could fit on a postage stamp

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This whole issue is getting tiresome. Greater powers are certainly at play here. Is it a mere coincidence that Obama's paper trail has disappeared, dried up or been locked down. I don't care who you support for president, this just stinks.

This is a man who has already written his memoirs but who has yet to really accomplish anything is his young career. Have you ever visited a Presidential Library? Practically everything is available to view or read. I would expect that a detailed archive on Obama has already been created given his sudden rise to success. If he wins today, his eventual library will be quite empty if no records can be found during his formative years. It seems as if his history was already written/created for him.

IF he wins today everything will magically appear.

After reviewing all the posts and related links, why do I get the impression that the people who are demanding Hawaii's Department of Health to break the law would be the same ones to jump over Obama that he pressured them to break the law if they did so?

The laws of Hawaii are there for a reason - they were put in place by the people reciding in the state of Hawaii, directly or indirectly. So, this "request" of the people of Hawaii - you are basically saying they are all wrong, you are right, and they don't have the rights needed to make laws you feel should be ignored.

I don't care who supports or doesn't support Obama, but I do have problems with an individual saying that a group of people should have their rights taken away from them. Luckily, the courts agree with me on this.

Originally posted by Areal51

Who are you? I'm not in the business of convincing you to do anything. Make up your own damn mind.

You just proved my point area51, and you are like every Obamanoid I have ever seen that argues to defend the marxist senator from Illinois only to fight off allegations made but damn when it comes time to JUSTIFY their OWN damn reasons they are supporting him,, we see the typical temper tantrum tirade you just displayed saying "I'm not in the business of convincing you. Make up your own damn mind"


This of course is not entirely true, as what you are doing is attempting to keep ME from convincing others, having no alternative to offer as reasons FOR supporting Obama other than the spell you are under or the infatuation you have with his studly good looks, clever witt and repartee.

Makes for a better understanding as to what motivates you but last I checked,, he is a Married Man.

You write these big wordy posts and back them up with nothing.

Big Words are a problem for you? Perhaps Ill choose words having only two syllables from now on, I certainly don't want t be accused of having a made you feel inferior with or without your consent. Oh and when you say back "them" up with nothing?? Could you please be more specific, I am at a loss to understand which post you are talking about where Obama himself didn't prove my point.

Why? Because you just spouting off your knee-jerk opinions, but you want the appearance of depth.

Oh I wouldn't say that,, I mean Obamanoids like yourself have a tendency to resort to the same tactics you are using here because your post is nothing more then a critique of mine but one based on your opinion as to what "depth" really is. After getting this far in your post I would say your the type of guy that thinks if beauty is only skin deep then you want beautiful skin damn it!

There's nothing deep about anything that you post.

Like I said, I am talking to Obamanoids like yourself, if I went any deeper you wouldn't know what I was talking about because I'd have to use even bigger words then those you are already having a problem with now.

And your latest response is typical.

lol umm yeah,, most of mine are typical of how I am, the way I am in spite of how YOU are. Or maybe I should say "what" you are.

You avoid the meat of what I said, which is that you don't know jack about the case,

Well that's assuming I saw any "meat" in your post, I may have glanced over that part by mistake trying to avoid all the ad-homs and insults words to the effect I am nothing compared to your staggering intellect.

The difference is I don't care to read your combative hostility centerd diatribe much less feel like I need to explain something so academic as my advice you should try to be more "at cause" than at "effect" and then maybe YOUR posts would be a shining example as an alternative to my typical ones rather than looking like they come from the mind of a child with a temper.

yet you come on board preaching to everybody as if you are an authority on it.

Oh how can that POSSIBLY BE when YOU ARE! Right?

That is besides being the "authority on worthwhile posts" and how to use more depth without the superfluous "big words"

You want the power that you condemn. You who want to convince. All this talk about politicians working for us... That is the dream right there! They promise to work for us, but usually end up working for themselves. Politicians are not employed by us. Politicians are employed by city, state, and federal governments. Does your signature appear on the paychecks of government employees? No! Quit dreaming that it does.

No,, I never said I signed their check nor did I say they are "employed" by us. I said they work for US and they do but now I know why you don't think I prove anything because the thought of my being right and your NEED to be right being in jeopardy, is so devastatingly distasteful to you, that you have even gone as far as saying YOU know more then the founding fathers who wrote that FACT into our Constitution, why they are called "OUR" not the federal state and local governments, but OUR "ELECTED" represenatives. When they don't satisfy our expectations we fire them by not putting them back in office for another term like what happend to many Republicans back in 2006.

If you actually owned a security company that ran background checks on government employees, you would actually have more influence on employee behavior than you do now. Why? Because you, along with the pharmaceutical companies, would lobby Congress not to legalize certain drugs. You would lobby Congress for more stringent drug testing. You'd create scales of reliability and trustworthiness that the personal and professional background checks of potential employees would have to pass. You'd create ideal psychological profiles that some employees for some agencies would have to measure up against for some types of jobs. Because of that, you would in fact have people working on your behalf in government. Those that get hired would be representative of your company. Their performance would reflect on your company. And the politicians would pass more laws and authorize more contracts on your behalf. That's if your work was actually worth a damn.

Was that the Oxford study or the loyola study?

I like all that stuff ya said about Backround checks to make sure the right people get in the right position and is one of the reasons when "Certain" people are attempting to get a Job that my tax dollars pay his salary and he isn't going to comply with backround checks birth certificates things like that,, then I got to ask myself, why hire them.

But the point is that you don't know anything about this case, and you should just admit that to yourself.

I admit it, I don't know that much about the case. (apparently)

Now getting back to what I DO know,, and that is what I DON'T KNOW and I don't know where Barack Obama was originally born. So my NEEDING to know about this case is simple because it only requires one easy to accomplish, easy to understand, simple action, which would make all that complex stuff you know so much more about, a lot easier and that would be PRODUCING THE BC LIKE EVERYONE ELSE INCLUDING JOHN MCCAIN HAS DONE. So if you know so much more than I do when all I really need to know can only be proven by asking you one simple question.

Does Barack Obama's Vault Birth Certificate say unequivocally, that he was born in Honolulu or Kenya, or just what DOES it say? Has anyone ever seen a picture of that part of it that actually saw it for themselves and not heard it from someone else, who heard it from someone else, who heard it from someone else, that it does? Hell at this point I'd even settle for that, but we have never even got that as an answer because the person who again said a BC is on record there could NOT answer the question what country was he Born in. So if anyone is spreading lies,, it is you because I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS BORN! and NEITHER DID THE DOH ELSE THEY WOULD HAVE SAID YES HE WAS BORN IN THIS VERY HOSPITAL!









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