Anyone see the democratic mouthpiece on Fox this morning?

LOL... actually, I helped pay for that road as well, a road built through pure Socialist principles. Oh, and by the way, I helped build that road as well, it's what I do. So technically, by the sweat of my brow and through my taxes, that is MY road. And I say he can use it.

i agree with the OP...as Thomas Jefferson once noted " If we as a nation pursue a bipartisan system of government, it will ruin the nation from within" or so many words anyway......i, myself, am a firm believer in our Constitution and all it represents.....this line of thinking has me in the Republican camp (technically if i had to choose) simply because i BELIEVE we have INALIENABLE RIGHTS which CANNOT be VOTED (democrats) away from us!

Democrats would have the system all voted away if they wished and had a large enough body of people behind these votes.

anyway...ya im more into our Constitutional rights than anything else its what sets us apart from the world

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Point taken, they actually did say that. However, you strangely left out the context. The whole idea is to restore the middle class that is quickly vanishing in this country thanks to the mythical "Trickle Down" theory. The money will be used to create new industry with middle class wages. The middle class then takes their newly acquired cash and does what with it? Why spend it, of course, thereby generating commerce, and essentially placing that cash right back in the hands of those that had it in the first place. More credit is established, more debt created (never forget our economy is fuelled solely by debt), China gets to sell their inferior goods to us, win/win... And yes, actually, it is just that simple. People are working again, they can buy houses again, etc, etc... Ad infinitum.

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Yes, Wonka didn't get this one right.

However, there are State Constitutions which often deal with taxation etc. And there is the bespoke Interstate system etc, plus National Parks.

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As for your contention the middle class carries the lions share of the tax burden, you are wrong again.





Look over this, read the charts, and understand that you are wrong. Again.

Tax Foundation Report

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According to this post, you personally would make 30% return on every tax dollar you pay -- in fact you get infinitely large return because you dodge taxes. Do you feel guilty? Is that why you want to NOT receive anything at all, no army, science etc?

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I do not recieve any federal, or state benefits. I carry my own health insurance and provide for others insurance as well.

So you are not paying for the possible capture and trial of Osama Bin Laden? You are not supporting our troops with things like decent body armor or anti-missile systems?





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I never claimed to be a patriot

Not once, not ever.

I see now. Than you have no right to lecture the rest of us about the Constitution, it was written for citizens and not for freeloaders who pose as such.

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Specifically how am I freeloading?

Point by point examples since you seem to know me so well.

Our brave men and women in uniform are fighting for our freedoms and safety, and you don't give a damn (or a dime) to support this fight.

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Ahahahahah now thats just funny.

You a comedian?

I wish it was. However, it's rather sad. People like you who don't give a damn about this great country of ours while demanding various rights set forth by our beloved Constitution are exactly the kind who are driving the US into the ground.

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People believing that the military is actually fighting for our rights and safety in the mideast are precisely whats wrong with this nation.

If the military wanted to protect our rights and safety, they would be destroying Washington DC as we speak.

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Of course middle class and some in the lower tax brackets are going to pay taxes, is just that Obama's policies are design to provide more relief from taxes to these two brackets while increasing it to thos in the higher income tax bracket and corporations.

So in essence yes those that earn less than $250,000 are going to see their taxable income reduced, not absolved.

Again you might disagree with the policy, the same way I disagree with Bush tax policies, but by no means it equates to socialism.

Not that you said that, I'm just getting tired of the word been throw around by people that can understand the difference between policies and systems of government.

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Hi People,

You guys all know the drill by now: Attack the post - not the Poster.

Please keep the personal attacks out of it thanks, it adds nothing to your arguments and you guys are smarter than to descend to the level of that kinda thing.


Cheers.