Bob Beckel, a democratic commentator on Fox news was on this morning and in a debate with a republican commentator, he stated "People try to call Obama a socialist, but that just isnt the case.....there is nothing wrong with taking money from a group of people and giving it to others. "

That is income redistribution, it is unconstitutional, yet it is a foundation of the democrats platform.

I am not a republican, nor a democrat, but socialism must not be allowed to grow, or we will all be screwed in the end.

[edit on 13-10-2008 by Constitutional Scholar]

Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
there is nothing wrong with taking money from a group of people and giving it to others. "

WHAT???



How can anyone possibly believe that? For some reason the government has developed some sort of Robin Hood complex and feel that it's their job to steal from the "rich" and give to the "poor". Although that isn't the case anyway, all they are doing is reducing the drive for hard work in this country. Why work and make something of yourself if the government is just going to take it?

It occurred to me the other day that the Democrats and Obama have been preaching a lot about the "American Dream" lately. Apparently, they only support the American Dream up to $250,000 a year. After that, you're the enemy and the problem.

NYK537,

I absolutley see and understand what you're saying here, and the rest of your activity here as well for that matter.

I have a big problem though with the left hijacking the Robin Hood legend to normalize socialism. Let's not forget that Robin Hood didn't "steal from the rich and give to the poor." What Robin Hood really did in the story was steal from the gov't taxman and return those taxes to the overburdened people!

I think capitalism, for better or worse, is at least partially about "taking money from a group of people and giving it to others". So argument about whether it's kosher or not is moot.

How is government stealing from one and giving to another a part of capitalism?

Lets face it, the democrats hypocritically believe the wealthy are evil. They want big government (the Bush admin does too), but freedom minded people know big government isn't conducive to liberty.

Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
How is government stealing from one and giving to another a part of capitalism?

I'm going to have to agree with C.S on this and request an answer.

How do you see Capitalism as a farm of redistribution?

I've never known you to answer a direct question, but maybe that's just when I ask them, so answer the one C.S asked....

Bob Beckel, a democratic commentator and renowned 'foot-in-mouth' socialist, has a record of blatant mistatements when trying to 'clarify' things he's spouted in the past. Anyone who dares to disagree with him and gets under his skin gets responses that get him in trouble!! He's a party hack, like most of the talking heads on the tube!

Zindo

Originally posted by nyk537

How do you see Capitalism as a farm of redistribution?

Well sheesh, look at the events of the past few weeks, with certain people making off with millions, and millions of other people being in financial jeopardy. Do you just pretend you didn't see any of that?

No I saw it, and that is corruption in the Capitalist system, not redistribution of wealth.

Originally posted by Constitutional Scholar
there is nothing wrong with taking money from a group of people and giving it to others. "
[edit on 13-10-2008 by Constitutional Scholar]

...Isn't that, um...STEALING?!

Yes it is, which thereby makes each and every politician who support such policies guilty of quite a few crimes.

Obama's tax policies are about fairness and stimulating the economy.

While many conservative support the idea of trickle down economics, which has been proved to be an economic fallacy during the Bush Administration and McCain supports it, the Obama camp is basically appealing for a form of windfall tax and when it comes to tax policy obviously one side gets screwed usually, sometimes both, but in this case one.

For the last 8 years its been the high income earners, big corporations that have benefited from this to no benefit of the country. Last time a form of windfall tax was used was during the Clinton administration and we had a booming economy and he manage to leave office with a surplus.

So first, let throw away this notion that Obama is a socialist becasue of the tax policy he wants to implement.

Is he going to raise taxes? YES,

For what purpose? To stimulate the economy by giving much deserved tax cuts to the middle class and the poor.

How is he going to pay for it? By letting the Bush tax cuts expire, by increase taxes on oil companies, by increasing taxes on the top 5% of earners.

Is it fair? On a fair world NO, but given the current economic situation I think his policy is acceptable.

My view on Obama tax policies is that it is ok as long as he keeps his vision on why he is rasing taxes, if it is to create more big government then he should go to hell with his tax increases.

The benefits of his tax plan need to be tangible to those he is saying he is going to help, no a repeat of Bush tax policies.

Originally posted by Bunch
Obama's tax policies are about fairness and stimulating the economy.

While many conservative support the idea of trickle down economics, which has been proved to be an economic fallacy during the Bush Administration and McCain supports it, the Obama camp is basically appealing for a form of windfall tax and when it comes to tax policy obviously one side gets screwed usually, sometimes both, but in this case one.

For the last 8 years its been the high income earners, big corporations that have benefited from this to no benefit of the country. Last time a form of windfall tax was used was during the Clinton administration and we had a booming economy and he manage to leave office with a surplus.

So first, let throw away this notion that Obama is a socialist becasue of the tax policy he wants to implement.

Is he going to raise taxes? YES,

For what purpose? To stimulate the economy by giving much deserved tax cuts to the middle class and the poor.

How is he going to pay for it? By letting the Bush tax cuts expire, by increase taxes on oil companies, by increasing taxes on the top 5% of earners.

Is it fair? On a fair world NO, but given the current economic situation I think his policy is acceptable.

My view on Obama tax policies is that it is ok as long as he keeps his vision on why he is rasing taxes, if it is to create more big government then he should go to hell with his tax increases.

The benefits of his tax plan need to be tangible to those he is saying he is going to help, no a repeat of Bush tax policies.

Fairness? Surely you are joking right?

How is it fair to give "tax cuts" to people that dont pay a cent of income taxes, while simultaneously raising taxes on others just because "they can afford it"?