Originally posted by Simplynoone
LowLevel ...if it is not about God really as you say it isnt ...
And this is exactly what I am talking about.
After I JUST GOT DONE explaining that belief in God in freemasonry is critical in masonic
philosophy, you completely ignore what I typed and go about believing what you want to believe instead of what I've just typed.
Furthermore, I have no doubt now that your next reply is going to say something along the lines of "Well if it is about God then why is it not a
Church" even AFTER I just got done giving multiple examples of where God is involved in public life that have no relation to religion or church. You
have, of course, also ignored that and will no doubt ignore it once you ask the same question again.
No, Atheists are not going to have a desire to join a organization where belief in God is central to the organizations philosophy. Furthermore, if
they choose to want to do it anyways, there are numerous other groups that say they are freemasonry which admit atheist, including the Grand Orient of
Originally posted by Simplynoone ...all they have to do is like alot of people do and just say sure I believe in God ...no problem.....I
know Christians who say they do and DONT really believe ..They just want to be a part of something or they just want to feel special ..or whatever ..I
am not sure why they lie ..but they do ..I know lots of Christians like that actually ..
And what exactly is your point here? Sure, people can feel free to lie and say they believe in a Supreme Being to join freemasonry. No one has ever
said this couldn't happen. If people want to lie, so be it - its their loss, as they won't find anything of value in the organization.
Josh I am not saying your all in the dark or being kept in the dark .. I believe yall just really dont care and have already blown it all off as
stupid ...you prefer just thinking it is just a good ole boys club ...and would not know even if something was going on ...for that reason ..no
researching it ..no questioning it ..nadda ..just going and hanging out ..and giving to the poor ..
I know this is directed at Josh, but I must chime in here - this is absurd. How in the world do you know that freemasons never research any of this?
I'll have you know I researched the fraternity for YEARS before I decided to join, delving into every conspiracy theory I could find. And I am not
alone - I would say a majority of masons do this.
However, because we found nothing and there is no proof for any of the allegations thrown around, you assume that we did no research. Did it ever
occur to you that we did all the research, and that you just happen to be wrong? No that can't be it of course, really there is just something
nefarious going on that only you and other anti-masons know about.
No one has said Freemasonry is a "good old boys club" - its quite the opposite. The membership criteria is quite wide, with probably over 1 to 2
billion people meeting the membership criteria (over 18, male, not enslaved, and no criminal record) and it caters to those who have a wide
philosophical interest. It is, however, a club devoted to esoteric philosophical inquiries and to doing good works on occasion.
It sounds nice ......Like the United Way was all good and kind too and helping lots of people all over the world .....they were robbing everyone blind
...remember that ? Wasnt all good on the inside of that charity was it ..and not many knew about it ..not even those who worked for them ..(how
embbaresing that must have been for them when they found out) (sorry about my spelling )
The United Way is a charity arm of the United Nations. Freemasonry is a club. Why do you continue to search to find invalid metaphors?
Freemasonry has open books. You want to find some evil scheme? Go search through them. You may find something if you searched through all the books of
all the lodges in the world, because with so many lodges I'm sure someone is being corrupt somewhere. When you find it, come here and I will
personally help you expose the lodge and bring it to the media's attention.
But it would be a rare finding, because freemasonry is an inefficient and structurally unsound way to do anything evil. There are far better avenues
to do such things.
[edit on 27-10-2008 by LowLevelMason]