So McCain says that we shouldnt be scared of Obama as president, page 4
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:25 PM by David9176
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



The attack dogs have been sent to both parties. It was the most honest thing i've seen throughout the whole election process...and it's not like Obama has been Mr. Nice Guy in his campaign either.

I'm voting on the man...not the campaign in which both are guilty of being dishonest.



[edit on 10-10-2008 by David9176]


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:29 PM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by David9176



David. I am not disputing that point. Of course both parties do.

I am addressing one thing specifically.

Whether McCain was genuine.

McCain is allowing his VP candidate Sarah Palin to preach this message that apparently he is genuinely against?.. Come on... She is not going on some personal tangent, they are on the same team man.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:36 PM by bknapple32
Originally posted by David9176
reply to
post by Lucid Lunacy



The attack dogs have been sent to both parties. It was the most honest thing i've seen throughout the whole election process...and it's not like Obama has been Mr. Nice Guy in his campaign either.

I'm voting on the man...not the campaign in which both are guilty of being dishonest.



[edit on 10-10-2008 by David9176]



I ask you to compare negative attack ads from mccain vs negative attack ads from obama... then tell me who mr nice guy is.



reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:38 PM by DarkStormCrow
reply to post by whaaa



Support who you like , I aint happy with Bush either , he has been a disaster for true conservatives.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:40 PM by Areal51
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It's also possible that the moon is made of cheese. But unless you go there, you'll never really know the truth.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:43 PM by David9176
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I won't do that. Do you win if Obama has less?? Does it really matter?? The point is they are both guilty of it. Ok...Obama is LESS guilty...but guilty nonetheless.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:47 PM by bknapple32
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
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post by whaaa



Support who you like , I aint happy with Bush either , he has been a disaster for true conservatives.



something we can agree on


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:48 PM by bknapple32
Originally posted by David9176
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post by bknapple32



I won't do that. Do you win if Obama has less?? Does it really matter?? The point is they are both guilty of it. Ok...Obama is LESS guilty...but guilty nonetheless.


well in that case, in terms of character, ill take the lesser of two evils.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:52 PM by jam321
reply to post by Areal51



But unless you go there, you'll never really know the truth.


and that is exactly people are going there with ayers, cause they want to know the truth about Obama and Ayers.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:09 PM by redmage
Originally posted by jam321
they want to know the truth about Obama and Ayers.


I've gotta disagree. They don't really want the truth; they'd much rather
beg the question in order to have personal perceptions reinforced through supposition. The truth is far too mundane, and that's why such inferences did nothing for Clinton when she begged the same questions during the democratic primaries.

[edit on 10/11/08 by redmage]



reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:23 PM by whatsup
reply to post by Grumble





I think McCain is a great man, and I am not one of his supporters in this election. I doubt he has much control over his own campaign. It has the fingerprints of Rove and the GOP slime machine all over it. I feel sorry for him.



PUUULLEEZZ! His campaign floods the airwaves with all kind of incendiary ads with "terrorist, terrorist, terrorist" and you say he is a great man?? These ads also end with the "I am John McCain and I approve this message"...and you feel sorry for him!

This is the same kind of crap I heard when everyone felt sorry for Bushy because of the actions of Cheney, Wolfiwitz, "Rump-roast" and the all the other Halloween cast of characters which "he had hand picked!"

No, if McCain can't control his own party (which he has no interest in doing cause they are his minions to do his dirty work), then he damn sure ain't fit to rule on decisions affecting the whole world!


[edit on 10-10-2008 by whatsup]


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:25 PM by Areal51
reply to post by jam321



He's a public person. He works at the University of Illinois. Call him and ask some questions. Send an email.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:26 PM by David9176
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



I'll be honest with you. I don't think McCain is in full control of his campaign and i don't think Obama is either. That is what i think was shown tonight. McCain's last few rally's have had some hate mongers in the crowd...and i could tell he didn't like it. IMO. He did the right thing and i applaud him for it. He's not going to let up on the double A's and i don't think he should. Let people find out for themselves...if they find nothing..then so be it. But the question should be raised nonetheless. He should be able to question it and NOT be thought of as being racist and i think he made that clear.

I'm not going to try and sway people's opinion...i'm just stating mine. Frankly, i don't want to get into the mudslinging he said/she said bull anymore. I've grown tired of it. I've been called a Racist and countless other names just because I question Obama's values. It's not fair that people can throw that out at you without merit. RACIST is a strong word and should not be used lightly.
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