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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:20 PM by Grafilthy
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Who is this man??? John Sidney McCain?? Should we be scared of this John Sidney McCain?? I mean, he is saying Barack Hussein Obama is a family man?!?!
I wonder what John Fitzgerald Kennedy would think of this....
(See why we drop middle names?)
Seriously, good on ya John Sidney McCain!
(watch the video though...he cringed!)
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:25 PM by David9176
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The attack dogs have been sent to both parties. It was the most honest thing i've seen throughout the whole election process...and it's not like
Obama has been Mr. Nice Guy in his campaign either.
I'm voting on the man...not the campaign in which both are guilty of being dishonest.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:27 PM by Grumble
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Originally posted by bknapple32
Obama isnt an arab, hes a decent person... Sounds racist to me.
What if he had said "Muslim" instead of "Arab?"
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:29 PM by DarkStormCrow
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It is possible Ayers and Obama may have met at Columbia as early as 1981, it is also possible that they met as early as 1989 when Michelle Obama and
Ayers wife worked for the same lawfirm. It is also possble that Ayers is the ghost writer for both of Obama's memoirs that is still being looked
into the writing is very similar.
[edit on 10/10/2008 by DarkStormCrow]
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:29 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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David. I am not disputing that point. Of course both parties do.
I am addressing one thing specifically.
Whether McCain was genuine.
McCain is allowing his VP candidate Sarah Palin to preach this message that apparently he is genuinely against?.. Come on... She is not going on some
personal tangent, they are on the same team man.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:32 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by Grumble
Originally posted by bknapple32
Obama isnt an arab, hes a decent person... Sounds racist to me.
What if he had said "Muslim" instead of "Arab?"
Then that would be.... quite different!
Muslim is a religious title, and Arab is racial.
I thing you missed the point.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:36 PM by whaaa
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Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
It is possible Ayers and Obama may have met at Columbia as early as 1981, it is also possible that they met as early as 1985 when Michelle Obama and
Ayers wife worked for the same lawfirm. It is also possible that Ayers is the ghost writer for both of Obama's memoirs that is still being looked
into the writing is very similar.
This type of argument, to me shows desperation. If you want to convert me into the McCain/Palin/Conservative camp; you might do better trumpeting the
accomplishments of the last 8 years of the Bush presidency.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:36 PM by bknapple32
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Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
The attack dogs have been sent to both parties. It was the most honest thing i've seen throughout the whole election process...and it's not like
Obama has been Mr. Nice Guy in his campaign either.
I'm voting on the man...not the campaign in which both are guilty of being dishonest.
[edit on 10-10-2008 by David9176]
I ask you to compare negative attack ads from mccain vs negative attack ads from obama... then tell me who mr nice guy is.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:38 PM by DarkStormCrow
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Support who you like , I aint happy with Bush either , he has been a disaster for true conservatives.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:40 PM by Areal51
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It's also possible that the moon is made of cheese. But unless you go there, you'll never really know the truth.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:43 PM by David9176
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I won't do that. Do you win if Obama has less?? Does it really matter?? The point is they are both guilty of it. Ok...Obama is LESS guilty...but
guilty nonetheless.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:47 PM by bknapple32
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Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
reply to post by whaaa
Support who you like , I aint happy with Bush either , he has been a disaster for true conservatives.
something we can agree on
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:48 PM by bknapple32
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Originally posted by David9176
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I won't do that. Do you win if Obama has less?? Does it really matter?? The point is they are both guilty of it. Ok...Obama is LESS guilty...but
guilty nonetheless.
well in that case, in terms of character, ill take the lesser of two evils.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:52 PM by jam321
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But unless you go there, you'll never really know the truth.
and that is exactly people are going there with ayers, cause they want to know the truth about Obama and Ayers.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:09 PM by redmage
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Originally posted by jam321
they want to know the truth about Obama and Ayers.
I've gotta disagree. They don't really want the truth; they'd much rather
beg the question in order to have personal perceptions reinforced
through supposition. The truth is far too mundane, and that's why such inferences did nothing for Clinton when she begged the same questions during
the democratic primaries.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:20 PM by dgtempe
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Iwill definatly will NOT be voting for McCain, however,
he did the right thing- and i was impressed when that woman in the audience called Obama a name and he stopped her.
His strategy was NOT working.
He will do better if he acts "civilized"
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:23 PM by whatsup
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I think McCain is a great man, and I am not one of his supporters in this election. I doubt he has much control over his own campaign. It has the
fingerprints of Rove and the GOP slime machine all over it. I feel sorry for him.
PUUULLEEZZ! His campaign floods the airwaves with all kind of incendiary ads with "terrorist, terrorist, terrorist" and you say he is a great man??
These ads also end with the "I am John McCain and I approve this message"...and you feel sorry for him!
This is the same kind of crap I heard when everyone felt sorry for Bushy because of the actions of Cheney, Wolfiwitz, "Rump-roast" and the all the
other Halloween cast of characters which "he had hand picked!"
No, if McCain can't control his own party (which he has no interest in doing cause they are his minions to do his dirty work), then he damn sure
ain't fit to rule on decisions affecting the whole world!
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:25 PM by Areal51
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He's a public person. He works at the University of Illinois. Call him and ask some questions. Send an email.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:26 PM by David9176
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I'll be honest with you. I don't think McCain is in full control of his campaign and i don't think Obama is either. That is what i think was
shown tonight. McCain's last few rally's have had some hate mongers in the crowd...and i could tell he didn't like it. IMO. He did the right
thing and i applaud him for it. He's not going to let up on the double A's and i don't think he should. Let people find out for themselves...if
they find nothing..then so be it. But the question should be raised nonetheless. He should be able to question it and NOT be thought of as being
racist and i think he made that clear.
I'm not going to try and sway people's opinion...i'm just stating mine. Frankly, i don't want to get into the mudslinging he said/she said bull
anymore. I've grown tired of it. I've been called a Racist and countless other names just because I question Obama's values. It's not fair that
people can throw that out at you without merit. RACIST is a strong word and should not be used lightly.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 09:32 PM by Contagion2012
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Even Faux News is basically conceding defeat already. IMHO, OBAMA is going to be pres because they believe it will calm us down. Make us believe he
is for the people. It's a shame that any candidate that believes in TRUE democracy basically get silenced by the MSM. ie Ron Paul.
Hell, I think that's probably why Kennedy was assassinated.
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