So McCain says that we shouldnt be scared of Obama as president, page 5
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:29 PM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by David9176



You didn't address my point about his stance in regards to what Palin is doing as it reflects on his genuineness.

Hey I haven't heard anything from you that would have me throw any racist allegations towards you. I am also tired and was not trying to mudsling or play political games. I was just interested on how you formed your opinion.


reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:51 PM by DarkStormCrow
reply to post by YourNuts



I aint happy with the Iraq War either for a variety of reasons of course we didn't have access to all the intelligence info, maybe Biden can clue us in he voted for the war also. Legally we could go into Iraq for Saddams constant breaking of the ceasefire from the first Gulf War, I think he was containable and going in wasnt worth it , and I was right .

I am sure that Cheney is neck deep with Halliburton. Of course I also think Bush suffered a stroke ( remeber the pretzel incident) and Cheney has been running the show since then.

Lets say six months from now it is proven that Obama and Ayers have known each other since the Columbia days circa 1981 and it is revealed that Ayers is his ghostwriter on his memoirs, I would rather know the truth now as opposed to later.

Ron Paul would be my first choice, Obama would be my last...



reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 11:56 PM by JaxonRoberts
Here's the comments in question here:



This makes me finally have some respect for John McCain. The mudslinging has to stop! Both candidates are good citizens and just have different views on how to handle the problems that face our nation. The McCain campaign in specific has been slinging poo like a bunch of caged monkeys at the zoo, and it seems like the leader of that campaign has finally said "ENOUGH"! This is not helping to swing the undecideds to his side and is alienating all non-conservatives. In the end, only one of them is going to be the next president, and we all need to stand behind whoever inherits this mess. Remember the phrase "United we stand, divided we fall", for if we stay divided after the vote is counted, fall we will, each and every one of us!


[edit on 10-10-2008 by JaxonRoberts]


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 12:20 AM by staver
For anyone who thinks that John McCain is a "good" man, I'd suggest you read up on his past. There's a very interesting article in Rolling Stone about him, and from what I understand about how he treated his first wife I think that speaks way more about his character. As far as Sarah Palin, how about her VERY close associations with the Secessionist Party in
Alaska. Check into that, there's some terrorists for you. Couple that with her fondness for automatic weapons and apparent tendancy to abuse power and you have a real reason to be afraid. Just for the record, also,
I've been a Republican since I was old enough to vote. I'm also a "born again" Christian, 48 years old, and was raised in the Assemblies of God
Church, the same denomination Palin belonged to. Having said that, I can tell you all from long experience that just being a Christian doesn't mean squat. Some of the most decietful, backstabbing, prejudiced, and manipulative people I've ever known were "born again" Christians. I've also learned to spot such people, and trust me, she is one. Look into her
antics, I'd wager if she got into power we'd all be forced to convert at gunpoint. Also, being a Christian, I understand the concern, but as far as
the Constitution goes, there can be no religious test for the presidency, which means, kids, even if Obama WAS a muslim that shouldn't matter.
Now if he was radical, that's another story, but technically he could be a
Bhuddist and could still be president, or a Wiccan, or an athiest, or a
Scientologist, however, the latter would probably never run because the
space ship could come for them any time.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 02:24 AM by redmage
reply to post by Swatman



It's true, all we've seen was one sermon; however, if he did hear the same "brutally anti american" things over and over again for 20 years then it should be no problem at all for you to dig up all of the numerous other "brutally anti american" sermons that no one else seems to be able to find.

We're waiting...

Personally, I think Palin's pal Vogler saying "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America and her damned institutions." is just as, if not more, "brutally anti american"; so neither ticket really has an edge here.

[edit on 10/11/08 by redmage]


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 02:40 AM by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by DarkStormCrow



On the surface that seems like a good point! I wouldn't be surprised though if Harvard accepted him into the program simply because he was the son of a United States President though


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 02:46 AM by Loki
reply to post by DarkStormCrow



Bush graduated from Yale, not Harvard, and without postgraduate work.


In May 1968, Bush was accepted into the Texas Air National Guard, after scoring the lowest acceptable passing grade on the pilot's written aptitude test




reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 02:47 AM by Swatman
Originally posted by bknapple32
Originally posted by Swatman
the funniest thing i still cant comprehend is Obama says about reverend wright " all you guys see on TV in the media is one sermon"


ya that is right obama, if one sermon was that brutally anti american, i can only imagine what you have heard for 20 years????? oh wait, you deny hearing anything. i guess you slept every sunday the past 20 years then. idiot.


I love when someone calls a Harvard law grad , who is able to run for president of the united states, raised from food stamps, an idiot.

Dont like it? why dont you run???


Oh thats right, you wont, cause you cant.



of course i cant run, i didnt befriend william ayers, rev wright and phlager, and i cant play the race card


and he is an idiot for lying to the american public about his dealings with tony rezko, his personal beliefs on america and his dealings with a domestic terrorist. he seems to be like the type to use people and discard them when they are no longer useful to them. he used rezko to get a huge house and throws him away once the media finds out about his dealings, hes big friends with wright until the wright videos come out. He is buddies with ayers and denied knowledge that he knew he was a terrorist until people are making a big deal out of it. he used ayers to start his political career and discarded when no longer needed. im surprised michelle is still in the picture.

This person is a hypocrit and cant come 10 feet near a presidental podium for all the stuff hes hiding because if it was ever found out, he would lose all political connections
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