reply to post by miriam0566
As someone who has dealt with infertility and a second trimester miscarriage (meaning a D&C is necessary or the torture of delivering a dead lump in
the maternity ward) - not the same as a 1st trimester m/c or abortion by any stretch - I can say that there is no way what died inside me was a human
being yet. A potential human being, but, no, not a human being. I resent every law around abortion and reproductive care there is as an invasion
into my proper medical care. My experience radicalized me into being even more Pro-Choice than I was before.
Perhaps it is because I grew up knowing so many women who have had miscarriages and stillbirths that I didn't appreciate how foreign the idea of
wanting to not even tell anyone outside of your partner and doctors that you are pregnant until the baby is born alive was. Every woman but one in my
family has miscarried or had a stillbirth. It changes how you view pregnancy when you grow up in that culture. My miscarriage affected my husband
more than it did me. This is a much more common thing than either physicians or the general public realize because good statistics are not kept.
To the question about God being an abortionist?
Most Evangelical Christians and general Christians do not understand fully what it means to be "Fallen." This means that mankind and this realm are
diseased. It is being healed by the grace of Christ's intervention. But, it, like all healings, is taking time. The pastors who say to a woman
"It's God's Will" are actually doing more damage. Most women will interpret this as being God's punishment. Luckily for me, because my mother
had had that experience and then got GOOD counseling from an Adventist Minister I did not have that experience.
What did the Adventist minister tell her? What had I carried with me as a shield for this experience? That it is not God who does things directly in
our lives except under extraordinary circumstances. Sometimes things just happen. And, sometimes, God just says No.
One word of advice to anyone who is comforting a woman who has miscarried or had a stillbirth. The only thing to say that will give comfort is:
"I'm so sorry for your loss." That is it. Don't put your foot in your mouth. If she asks why, the answer is that "bad things just happen,
there is no reason why." Because that is the truth of the matter despite the blasphemy being taught by the prosperity gospel people.
Now, the Buddhists have a lovely mantra surrounding miscarriage. In their philosophy, parents of the fetus that is miscarried have given the gift of
nirvana to that soul. The soul needed to return just long enough to be loved and wanted before leaving the cycle of reincarnation.
God is not an abortionist. God is not that involved in people's lives. He expects us to move forward on our own. To stand up and grow up. He gave
us free will, minds, a whole world to be explored. To treat God as a vending machine of wants and needs is just childish - not childlike.
It seems that many people don't want to be mature in their spirituality and relationship with God. They want to stay at the level of a 2 year old or
so demanding God give them whatever they want. I don't understand that attitude since Christ said to follow Him we must take up our own cross. Why
would we be treated better than our teacher? He was hated by those of this world and made to suffer. Why should any of us believe we are going to
get out of suffering - whatever form it takes?
God's Will is something that affects the soul primarily - not the body. And, God is neither male nor female - but Christ did come as a man.
