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Originally posted by Clearskies
I don't live with the guilt anymore, but I also want to tell other women (young and old)
how an abortion can ruin your life.
Some women have had more than 1 abortion and don't think it's a bad thing.
I think there is a lot of suppression going on there......
NOONE warned me or said anything to the contrary of ,"It's the best thing for you right now.".....
When we tell a woman that she ought to keep the baby, we'd better be prepared to give her all the help we can.
I think it's not going to help a woman to be at an abortion clinic yelling "Whore" or anything. Even if it's true.
There were no protestors at the one I went to, but I think if they had called me names and judged me, it wouldn't have changed my mind. I was FINE with it, till I did it!
Then I was so traumatized I spent 6 months in a mental hospital, getting worse and worse!
Originally posted by miriam0566
i agree with alot of what you are saying. i had my first abortion when i was twelve. ill be honest with you, i was really too young to understand the significance of what was happening. but later and after other abortions it began to really affect me.
for some people, its not going to matter, but i would say that most dont realize just how traumatic it is until after.
Originally posted by Clearskies
Thank you for being honest!
12 is so young! Was the guy young, too?
If not, he should've been prosecuted for rape!
My abortion affected me so badly, that the next time, I decided to keep it.
I had a miscarriage, though......
ive never felt it to be my place to tell other women in that situation what to do... what i really wish though is that people who get abortions could weigh the consequences. i dont think alot of women understand that its not that simple
Originally posted by Astyanax
As for me, I believe without the faintest shadow of doubt that the resort to abortion should be legal and freely available to any woman who desires it. But nobody in their right mind is 'pro' abortion - just pro the legal availability of it. I agree with you, Miriam; a woman should think hard before she decides to have an abortion.
But that doesn't mean she shouldn't have one if she needs to.
the fact is, we are dealing with a human life.
woman kills her 5 year old child, she´s a monster. but she aborts her unborn baby, she´s exercising a choice.
its not her body, its her baby´s.
woman chooses to get an abortion, its her business, not mine.
Originally posted by Astyanax
Indeed. The life in question is the life of the woman contemplating an abortion.
why is a fetus worth so much less than a baby?
Originally posted by Astyanax
Because it is not a human being.
Because it is not even independently alive.
what difference does that make? just because its forming and requires help to function doesnt mean it isnt alive.
Originally posted by Astyanax
What difference does it make to God the Abortionist? God, defined as Christians do, is personallly responsible for every death in the universe:
from day one it is unique supplied with its own dna and growing by its own will.
Originally posted by Astyanax
By its own will?
Even a child of ten does not grow by its own will. It has no say in the matter.
As for answering your question: look, Miriam, I began by applauding your attitude towards individual liberty in this thread. I have agreed with you that an abortion is not something to be taken lightly, and that such a step should be avoided if at all possible. I respect your grasp of Christian theology, a demanding and intellectually labyrinthine subject. What more do you want?
I have no intention of getting involved in an argument over fundamentals on this thread, where we are discussing whether or not God could be regared as an abortionist.
Is my pancreas human? Yes. Is it alive? Yes. Does it have individual human rights? No. Good heavens, what next? Let's start a Votes For The Unborn movem
Originally posted by mlowsley
I can say that there is no way what died inside me was a human being yet. A potential human being, but, no, not a human being.