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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:36 PM by DisgustedOne
Originally posted by rufusdrak
Originally posted by Interestinggg
Originally posted by leomurray
I am afraid thats what they want us to do at least in an unorganized unarmed rabble, they've made preparations for such a case. And believe me it wouldn't be pretty especially with the things needed to accomplish the revolution or fight a guerrilla war. I mean im not prepared to cut kids arms off and S*&^ are you?

How many people is there?Compared to soldiers?
Can you imagine the thoughts of a soldier, when confronted with an army, of 40 million people?


Damn this guy has a good point that I've never thought about. U.S. army is so armed and such but the U.S. has a population of 300,000,000+ the armed forces have a population only in the hundreds of thousands. If people truly stood up together imagine a force of even 1/3 of that, 100,000,000 confronting the measley 200,000 or so army, I don't care if it's pitchforks versus tanks, the populace would still kick arrse and take names.


I agree in part but let's do some math here. Of that 300 million, how many are of an age to be really effective in a scrap of this magnitude? Let's assume families of 4 - 2 parents and 2 kids. So, 2 adults, that gives us 150 million. Now, lets be real here, this means 1 male of fighting age, we will need to half it again - 75 million. That is still an impressive number, no? Okay, now of that 75 million, how many will truly be WILLING? Half again? A quarter of that? I think a lot less. Lets just say 10 million ready and willing. STILL AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER, no? Until recently, U.S. forces could not operate inside U.S. borders, but now they can. How convenient. That 10 million can still kick arse and take names but only AFTER THE MILITARY RAN OUT OF MUNITIONS. And THEY have some pretty impressive munitions.

This is not a winning scenario for the good guys. Of course, I am making some REALLY BROAD ASSUMPTIONS here. I have some doubts that U.S. Army soldiers will fire on its own citizens, but there are no gaurantees, are there? I still remember Kent State. We live in some strange times, I think.

Having said all that, I really think that we will all bumble through these times with no real action or solution, it will all just play out as the powers that be have determined. Sad, really.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 12:44 AM by Capt Buck Snort
The American Goverment was overthrown with the assassination of John Kennedy. The same group that later killed JFK Jr. Enter LBJ, Vietnam, Great Society, War on Poverty. Enter Dick Nixon the Anti War candidate, who soon after being elected, wanted peace with honor, and kept the war humming till we finally withdrew in the end via helicopters off embassy roof. This sends Dick hurrying off to China, to set up the sweetest deal ever, opening up the US market to Chinese goods. Meanwhile he dispatches Henry Kissinger to the middle east, where he uses his talent to get all the oil producing countries to set down together and set up OPEC. And urged them to raise oil prices and give there people more to stop the possible spread of communism into there region. And they were able to put aside there differences and start the first oil boycott, much to the joy of US oilmen who are able to get just as much as the greedy Arabs.
Enter Gerald Ford who gave us win buttons "Whip Inflation Now"
Enter Jimmy Carter who was elected on the promise of gearing down the federal government, and discovered along with his supporters that the president can only do so much. And all his negotiations could not get the hostages released. And when that failed the military option to rescue the hostages ended in a fiasco
Enter Ronald Reagan who in the debates told Jimmy if he could not do anything about the 60 Billion Deficit get out of the way of a man who can. The day he was sworn in the released hostages landed in the US. His first year of his presidency the deficit was 160 Billion the last 360 Billion. The miracle of lowering federal taxes, while pumping the military budget through the roof, was made possible by cutting money giving back to the states. The sales tax in Florida was 4% in 1982 they had to raise it as all other states had to do the same, its now 7%. Yet there are still people who talk about how he lowered taxes.
Enter George Bush Sr who promised us a kinder gentler America. And coined a new phrase. New World Order. Had huge popularity, and the majority of world support, untill deciding not to go into Bagdad and get Saddam. A lot of people thought that it was just to sell a bunch of patriot missiles in the region and that we would end up having to do something about him later. Maybe because we backed him on the war against Iran, and supplied him with the gas he used on the Kurds.
Enter Bill Clinton "It's the economy stupid" His gift was the war in Bosnia, where we fought Christians to protect muslims, and slid the NAFTA gift under the tree. A gift that just keeps on giving.
Enter George Bush Jr. He buys his way into office with saying the government has these three extra dollars, and whats wrong with giving one of them back to the people?
Enter 911 and another situation that requires our government to nail the barn door shut, after all the cows have gone. I believe that alkida, if it ever existed, shot its wad,on 911, and everything that homeland security does is a scam.
The best thing is to push for a ballot where a majority No Confidence vote, starts new elections, Stops currant Goverment from acting. The No Confidence Vote should be at every level of Goverment. I don't think violence will improve or fix anything.
When Russia had there last revolution, almost one one died. I believe this trend will follow, with the mass number of people getting there info from the web. And new thinktanks like the Zeitgeist Movement will take hold leading the peoples of the world toward global freedom, instead of the crazy notions we've been running on. CHANGE IS COMMING and is needed.
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