The American Government Must Be Overthrown!!!

When washington became "the government" instead of "our government" all was lost...............I think that happened under FDR.......our first socialist president..........

a great forefather of ours once said we must have a revolution every so many years to rid the govt of tyranny


he was absolutely correct

yet his ideas and situations were not foreshadowed to him of todays goings on

today a revolution of the classic sense of the word would never work out for the good

a violent revolution is fully unfeasable

those who think soldiers would stand up for americans, you're blind

a fight against the govt would lead to massacres and further loss of our constitutional rights


we need to support leaders who can provide a voice of power and organize enough people to actually make a difference at the polls, then and only then will we win back our country

how we will accomplish such a feat? i do not know

who those leaders will be or can be? i do not know

all i know is that is our only chance for change

and neither obama mcain palin or biden are the people for that job

in fact in all honestly, i dont know if the above 4 mentioned are really even any better off for us then bush is

Sigh.. I thought I did pretty good with the post on page 13. I'll make it clearer. America needs to make a BIG statement. A statement that sets an example for the entire country and gets the ball rolling for free men again. A statement that tells others who would abuse us that we mean business and the sentiment would trickle down to the average joe. The following does not apply.

- Voting. It has been done away with as the public's power. It's a game for suckers. See elections of 2000 and '04. It's used to completely pacify you. It's an outlet for your anger only now. The constant switching for the lesser of evils almost every cycle, thinking you have a say in what goes.

- Your voice has been silenced, you need only look to the passage of the bailout as proof. Americans rallied like no other time in very recent history sans this Iraq war and said "no bailout" in 80/20 fashion.

- Neither candidate is on your side. Let us never forget that both stooges running for office voted for this criminal bailout.

- It now takes over half a billion dollars to put a candidate in the winning position for the Oval Office. A constitutional loving, grassroots org that puts working "Americans First" as a party would never have a chance. Kiss Ron Paul activism goodbye.

Now here's what does apply as part of the criteria for such a statement.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Focus it up a notch or two, and I think you all will smell what I'm cooking. You don't need a million man force to pump up the spirit of revolution. Our first goal should be simple. Make them afraid for once.


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reply to post by drock905

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i say that is going to be a revolution only if they (the gouverment) wants one, i think most of revolutions that had place in history ware produced by the ones who had hidden interests. What would be an interest for the gouverment in my opinion for a revolution? well that will be martial law... because you are right, the people are to confortably to start a revolution by their one( besides that, i dont think that this can be done with out a "modern" che guevarra, and do not think that people will take the man who is willing to take that role seriosly), but if a propaganda for a revolution starts, i wouldn't trust it because i fear the hidden goal.

reply to post by karamazov feodor

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In a way, by fearing the propaganda of revolution, you are also choking off the only mechanism of last resort for a free people.

So, in summary were we all to fear propagandized 'revolution' then we may as well just resign ourselves to fascism, let it be done now, and have the super mods erase this and all discussions that pertain to negativity toward the Government.

AB1

I've heard of a group of people named "The Shadow Movement" who are looking for someway to mess up the government system. Apparently the reason is for the better of humanity but i guess people have their oppinions. I tried to research them but there is absolutely nothing about them anywhere.
They leave a mark arround the internet which can't be traced: < ! > its like an alert sign. (try typing < ! > without the spaces between the !)

To be honest the government is the only thing keeping this economy going. Without it the world would be utter chaos. You have to think of "The Greater Good" what ever that may be. Otherwise we wouldn't know where we stood in this world.

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Benjamin Franklin said the people should rebel every 80 years to keep their governments responsible. Longer than that and they become corrupt and self serving. If we keep things the way we are well be just like mexico in another 10 years. and when princeton can hack a voter machine make the results public that they did it and the government still uses those amchines what does that tell you. THEY DON'T CARE. THEY WILL PUT WHO THEY WANT IN POWER PERIOD.

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This entire thread is a smelly pile of putrid crap!

The very fact that you can post something like this puts the lie to your arguement.

Nobiody is trampling on the Constitution. I doubt if you even know what the words of the Constitution are, much less just how they apply through the laws passed by the Congress.

Sorry, but your "rights" end at the tip of my nose. That means you do not have any right that infringes upon me, or my community, or the country as a whole.

The whole concept that people had the "right" to do their own thing ended with the putting down of the "Whiskey Rebellion".

But keep on dreaming, and smoking that good stuff. You will always see people trampling on your rights, when you do nothing productive.

reply to post by Interestinggg

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40 millions of unarmed people is just meat nothing else...

Before I begin I need to express my deep respect and love for my fellow Americans. Without unity we will never be able to flourish and prosper, providing a better life for our children and their children. Many people tell me that at 22 years old I shouldn't worry about politics and the government. Ironicly these same people stress the importance of young voters. With that said I will continue on.
It is time for a change! We have heard this so often during the current election and for good reason. Even the presidential candidates know the government is mistreating its people. But to think a single man/woman can enter office and completetly change things is absurd. It has taken years and hundreds of officials to create this corrupt organization, and those profiting from it are not going to let someone come in and say ok "its time to change". We must make a stand and call for a total restructuring and reelection. From congressmen to senetors to supreme court justices every elected offical should be canned. The government was instituted in order to serve the people not the other way around. No longer shall we stand for the abuse and raping of our beloved constitution. If we do not preserve our rights now we may soon fall into indirect communisim. I for one will not allow my god given rights to be taken away. We are on a downward spiral and the future of humanity is at stake. If I am the only one that feels this way then let it be known and I'll accept it. It's up to you to prove my overconfidence in the American people as only a dream......................

reply to post by Scarcer

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So when has voteing actually made a difference, we THE PEOPLE vote & it dosent matter if it is a republican or a dem, we always get screwed, dont you know or realise that our founding fathers said, the only way to take over the people & the US if from the inside, do you not realise thats what they ment, that it would take a polition to do that. It is time for a revolution before it is too late to start one.

Interesting topic, but sort of naive.
Why would you waste your time discussing something that will never happen, in which you will never play a part, for a change that will never occur to help a people who will never support it? All you do discussing this is mark you and your friends as ignorant semi-dangerous people worthy of note on a long, low-level threat list.

I would love to see an array of reforms, myself, but I believe in the system. I've worked with, for, and in the system over the years.
I see plenty of people have commented the system doesn't work. They say you're wasting your time trying to contact your congressman or voting.
My only question is-have you ever done these things?

I've played a part in my government from the lowest levels. While I didn't always get what I wanted, I know my causes would do better if the average American actually did something to support them.

Let me remind you most people don't vote and the electoral battles are fought by an electorate that runs somewhere below 50 percent of the eligible voter population divided fairly evenly. The last couple elections were decided by relatively small leads. I wonder what would have happened if Americans got off the couch for the 30 minutes or so it would take to go vote. Or what would happen if more than a small minority of them called, wrote, or visited their congressmen.

Representative government can only work when people participate, but most people don't. Did any of you actually write or call to oppose the bailout? I know I did. At least the House killed it the first time. I lost, but I did make my voice heard. I even contacted other congressmen from my state to tell them what I wanted.

I'm about as pessimistic as they come, but the system can work when you actually use it. My dad has railed against one thing or another in politics for as long as I remember, but I also know he never volunteered to get out the vote, never put up a sign, never called anyone, or poll-watched. It's not much, but I've done that stuff. After attending a few meetings and making a very minor commitment to help, the local party offered me a position as a precinct chairman. Imagine what like-minded people could accomplish if they worked together instead of just bitching about it?

Ultimately, would-be revolutionaries are faced with one unstoppable issue-age. Eventually, you're going to have a family, a house, a car payment, and other related things. People with a stake in the game don't tend to upset the applecart. That's just how I see it.

I would love to see change, but most of our problem is the lazy American public, not the government. As long as they're selfish, willfully ignorant, lazy, sedentary, cozy, fat, dumb, and happy-you'll never see anything out of them. Our leaders will be only too happy to oblige them, too.

Enjoy-Polarbear6

reply to post by Polarbear6

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Yours is one of the most intelligent and well written posts I have come across since joining ATS. When I grow up, I wanna be like you!

all I will say is this.....

YES.... as peaceful as possible

It is our Duty to uphold the Constitution and to restore the Republic.

The 2 party dictatorship has outgrown its welcome and become corrupt beyond words

Peace

reply to post by alphabetaone

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i wasnt trying to say i would not favor a revolution, on contraire. What i do really try to say is to think before such an action is taken.

I too and the rest of my family and friends believe the America government must be quarantined or overthrown if you will. We must remove the Snotzi's that relocated to American during WW2. Ron paul is the perfect candidate to lead the way!!

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I agree with Polarbear6 most people just don't have the chutzpah these days to do much but b**ch on the internet.

I actually don't think we can overthrow anything at this point in time.

the united states government is owned by, and carries out the agenda of, the federal reserve.

its not the government that must be overthrown, it is the racketeering mobsters who are the federal reserve.

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