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Iran: US Warplane Forced To Land

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posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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Excellent point.....whether it was an old DA20 or a newer Dassault, they are not used to transport aid workers........either way, few, IF ANY, corporate type aircraft are without FMS (flight management systems) incorporating GPS (often dual), as well as INS......Oh wait, maybe it was bought on Ebay!!!!




posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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Okay, that article is bogus:



Iranian news agencies sparked fears of an international stand-off by reporting that a US fighter jet had been forced to land after flying into their country's airspace


They show this picture:



With caption:


Plane forced down by Iranian air force was a Falcon jet


That is not a fighter aircraft. :shk:
Sounds like Iran's trying to act big and tough again. Someone didn't give them their "baba".

[edit on 7.10.2008 by Shugo]



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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It amazing how the MSM takes a statement from a foreign nation and runs with it. No fact-checking, not checking with any other sources.

What is more amazing is that people actually fell for it. It's just sad that the MSM controls how we think. Look at Global Warming, or better yet look at Obama. The MSM has too much influence on public opinion. I guess it's so easy to control the masses.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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Ummm...im sure if an unidentified airplane flew into US airspace the first reaction would be: Oh my God-its an Iranian plane!!!!

Ive been it Iran before....and yes after having visiting my opinion remains. The place sucks and the leadership is worse. The women (the few i saw anyway) acted as if they were second class citizens.




Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by princeofpeace
 


Riiiiiight. Have you actually been there? Or are you just being ignorant because you think it is cool?

If a plane entered US airspace that was not immediately identifiable I guarantee that all hell would break loose and half the US would be screaming 'TERRORIST ATTACK' only to find out 5 minutes later that it was a paper airplane built by a Japanese Origami expert.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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I'd bet the news agency just stuck in the first smallish plane picture they could find in their files.
Common practice these days to use not too appropriate stock photos.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 10:56 PM
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Yes, a good point.

It would hardly be the first time one country has been using a non-military plane for spying when it would be just as happy to provoke a war as to get more close-ups to use to provoke a war.



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 11:23 PM
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well they just said it wasnt american on al-jazeera so its OK ppl



posted on Oct, 7 2008 @ 11:51 PM
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How is a Falcon Jet, a medium range executive commuter, a "warplane", or a "fighter"?

It is a civilian aircraft, even though some countries use them as Government Executive transports, or VIP commuters...

Misguiding post...



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Where did anyone get the idea that this was a WARPLANE?

There were military contractors on board along with civilians, there was more than enough room for 10+ people, it WAS NOT a Military "warplane/jet". It was en-route to another location and was off course for a very short period of time before it was told to land by Iran.

I mean honestly, wtf? why does everyone blow this out of proportion and say "ZOMG Iran/US are going to fight now because of this!!!"

Sure, there is a 'chance' that USA wanted that plane to be shot down(if you want to believe all the conspiracies that have been completely false such as this whole "October 7th is going to have a monumental event!!!") but it was CLEARLY non-threatening to Iran otherwise they would have shot it down, it was a passenger plane, "de derp de der!"

Iran is not the evil country everyone makes it out to be. In fact most of the people feel that America is generally good, MOST of them, not all of course, but this has declined over the past 30 years as relations have become a bit more aggravated by the restrictions we force on them.

EVEN people in Iran watch the Daily Show and Love John Stewart. There are so many people over there that would rather have our way of life its not even funny.

So please, for the love of (insert your god name here), STOP spamming all this stuff about what happens between Iran and USA as if its going to start WW3. Your all getting way out of hand with this stuff lately, its saddening



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace


Ive been it Iran before....and yes after having visiting my opinion remains. The place sucks and the leadership is worse. The women (the few i saw anyway) acted as if they were second class citizens.





Um, they are not acting, they are second class citizens, thats how the muslim world see's their woman, second to men and they are forced to cover up, shut up, and do as their told. Thats why you felt they "acted as if they were second class citizens". Sure the leadership is bad, and the place sucks because its not what your used to, but try to understand a country/culture that is not your own before you talk




[edit on 8-10-2008 by MaynardisGod]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by MaynardisGod
Where did anyone get the idea that this was a WARPLANE?


Well if you had bothered to read the thread of the people you're yelling at, then you would already have that answer many times over


We were told by the media sources it WAS a 'US warplane', we were initially commenting on that news. Then later when we discovered the truth we adjusted our positions accordingly.

I would have expected better from a Tool fan!



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:50 AM
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Don't put all American's in the same boat you jerk. Easy to say we are enjoying the war huh? You see your friend's face get grinded like hamburger and then WE can talk. I'm a Veteran and war was not enjoyable. If you had a brain as big as you donut fueled ass you would not comment like this. We know the rich are enjoying the war, not the working class and warrior class who only wish to do something, anything to help this planet.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:16 AM
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edition.cnn.com...


The U.S. military coalition in Iraq confirmed Tuesday that a business jet -- not a U.S. military aircraft -- was recently forced down in Iran due to an airspace violation.

"The airplane is now being confirmed as a light transport plane with no Americans onboard," Multi-National Forces-Iraq said in a statement issued Tuesday. "From what we have been seeing, it was a Falcon business jet. We have accounted for all our aircraft and none are missing."


just adding this link related to the topic.



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:31 AM
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Thats what i know. And knowing that, i still think it sucks over there. Never been to a more depressing place really. I feel bad for the Iranian people, their leadership-not so much. Country run by imbociles and its obvious the first moment you step off the plane. So yes, the place still SUCKS!



Originally posted by MaynardisGod

Originally posted by princeofpeace


Ive been it Iran before....and yes after having visiting my opinion remains. The place sucks and the leadership is worse. The women (the few i saw anyway) acted as if they were second class citizens.





Um, they are not acting, they are second class citizens, thats how the muslim world see's their woman, second to men and they are forced to cover up, shut up, and do as their told. Thats why you felt they "acted as if they were second class citizens". Sure the leadership is bad, and the place sucks because its not what your used to, but try to understand a country/culture that is not your own before you talk




[edit on 8-10-2008 by MaynardisGod]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy

Originally posted by geek101
Can you imagine an Iranian fighter plane flying over and landing in USA, and America letting them actually LAND, much less letting them go?


America World Police would have shot that plane down with a nuclear missile the day before it took off.


LOL, I think it is a little more understandable that a US jet could stray into Iran by accident, since we are fighting a war right next door. For the Iranians to invade North American airspace it would have to be intentional. If they were having problems they would have plenty of time to radio ahead and ask for an escort. I guess we should just let an enemy nation cross into our airspace. Would that make us better world citizens if we let someone attack us?



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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My country isn't poor, isn't rich, but at least we have style, when we're sending Humanitarian aid to someone. Why would we scare the people with military crafts? So, it's not fishy at all. The Hungarian Air Force and the Hungarian Government sometimes using private jets, such as the CIA is doing. Just while the CIA is running black ops, we're sending aid and personnel with these sort of crafts. And unlike the unmarked CIA jets, at least our crafts has a tail number.


And to the newcomers, whose didn't read the previous responses. This craft was a Hungarian Humanitarian craft. There was a typo in the flight plan regarding the tail number and that caused the problem. Mystery solved. Hurray.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by Sheridan]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 10:15 AM
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What kind of falcon plane was it , cos ive serched for it on google and got a dassult falcon 10 and the only military operators are france and morroco

General characteristics

Crew: 2
Capacity: 4-8
Length: 13.86 m (45 ft 5.75 in)
Wingspan: 13.08 m (42 ft 11 in)
Height: 4.61 m (15 ft 1.5 in)
Wing area: 24.1 m² (259.42 ft²)
Empty weight: 4880 kg (10760 lb)
Gross weight: 8500 kg (18740 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Garrett TFE731-2 turbofans, 1465 kN (3230 lbf) thrust each each
Performance

Cruising speed: 912 km/h (566 mph)
Range: 3560 km (2212 miles)


notice the capacity is 8

[edit on 8-10-2008 by KDMsouljah]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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Currently Iranian army is doing operations along with the Turkish army inside the northwestern borders of Iran with Turkey against Kurdish rebels.
Commercial aviation flights from Turkey are being conducted normally near this area of Iran since Turkey although aiding the Americans against Iraq hold nothing against Iran currently since they have mutual agreements conducting military operations together. I also believe agreements might exist with neighboring Armenia too if I am not mistaken.

Although It could be expected that Iran would have been alarmed if a non scheduled Turkish or international flight would continue straight without a flight plan all the way inside Iran. A possible corridor I suspect would pass near Tehran, the Iranian capital. Although a straight line from Turkey to Afghanistan passes through Iran's Tehran, it might be that for security reasons and primarily because of fears of a possible Israely sabotage, Turkey and Iran might have agreed that commercial flights heading to neighboring countries also ravaged by the ongoing operations for "Freedom" from our beloved Global Cops that is US, to not overfly from key strategic points.

Recent headlines to the news revealed that Israel staged an exercise over the country of Cyprus, and in Greek airspace over the island of Rhodes and the island of Crete in southeastern mediteranean in order to practise and develop a plan on how to counter the antibalistic/antiaircraft S-300 game changer that Iran is acquiring from Russia. It is estimated that the primary Israely target which is in Iran and is none other than their nuclear powered electrical factory, is at the same distance from certain target sites in Crete where Greek airforce has a similar s-300 system supposedly operational that according to the rumors in this exercise was used as a simulation target for the Israeli airforce effective plan creation for an attack on the Iranian nuclear powered electricity producing facilities.

The "Hungarian" or (insert any nation) airplane, if was seen as an uncharted flight coming from Turkey and heading to Iran, in a possibly flight path near or over the Iranian capital Tehran, would certainly alert suspicions and would demand a landing and check from Iranian authorities, which of course is not illegal and complies with international air faring laws. Iranians would probably thought it was an Israeli plane loaded with electronic spy gear to check Anti Air facilities near the outskirts of the Iranian capital, Tehran.

Everything else could be a smoke cloud created by the MSM, because they have their own games to play too.

For our beloved trigger happy global policing sympathizers.
Here is a map educate yourselves.


MAP OF IRAN WITH AFGHANISTAN AND TURKEY

[edit on 8-10-2008 by spacebot]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Bugsmasher
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Are you saying that the good and kind people of Iran would put out propaganda against the evil satan USA? Perish the thught!!
Tongue firmly planted in cheek.


Yep, just like the USA puts out propaganda about other countries. They all do it to some degree. You pretty much have to take all these type stories with a grain of salt.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by Kaploink]



posted on Oct, 8 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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No freaking way dude!!! Iranians ONLY tell the truth. Where have you been? If they said it was an Amercian plane then by all means it was American!!!



Originally posted by Kaploink

Originally posted by Bugsmasher
reply to post by resistor
 


Are you saying that the good and kind people of Iran would put out propaganda against the evil satan USA? Perish the thught!!
Tongue firmly planted in cheek.


Yep, just like the USA puts out propaganda about other countries. They all do it to some degree. You pretty much have to take all these type stories with a grain of salt.

[edit on 8-10-2008 by Kaploink]







 
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