Economic Independence - Will you Change?, page 2

reply to post by ProfEmeritus

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I've tried growing tomatoes and yellow squash at least 3 times, so have my neighbors. We live in the city limits, and someone told me last year we can't grow them because there are no bees left. I read something on the internet that said you can trick them into polinating by lightly touching the inner part of the blooms. No luck there either so we've all given up. This is why I started another thread about wanting to get my sons and their girlfriends to all go in with me and sell our places and buy about 5 acres out in the country, where we can have the resources to survive better.

Er, sorry OP, this thread has gotten off-topic and I didn't help.

Let's get back to the topic of finding out who is and isn't willing to make drastic changes in their lifestyle.

[edit on 7-10-2008 by Bombeni]

reply to post by Bombeni

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I don't believe our responses always need to be sudden or drastic. Certainly in these charged times, the impetus to prepare seems or is more urgent.

Saving money is what kicked-started us towards living minimally, and then the desire to make the transition to a possible grid off situation easier. Where we live, our power is derived from giant diesel generators, and it's not uncommon for the power to be out -- most of us have little systems to make that easier (battery-powered fans, etc.) Also, propane cooking is pretty common here -- also not electricity-dependant. Since our power is fuel based, when fuels have gone up in cost, so has the power. Plus, a person gets some comfort in the idea of contributing less toward oil/fuel dependency.

Transportation is another arena that is difficult, and involves serious choices, in that not everyone can bike to and from work or use public transportation. Sometimes sacrifices are required.

I don't think that your paragraph about pollination of plants was off-topic.... it's part of the whole picture IMO. When pollinating tomatoes, it's the vibratory action of the natural pollinators that causes release within the plant. My Mom always gently shook the tomato flowers, and that's the method I use as well, as we have no bees here. I'm sure you can do the same, as well as for your other yellow-flowering food plants. Here's a link to more info: www.pollinator.com...

reply to post by seejanerun

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Yes, they certainly would!

Thanks Jane!


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reply to post by alphabetaone

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voted for your basic idea -can we expand on it as to ways and means of making changes which will affect the world . i posted something on sizzles one post and i lost my original list due to hackers ,but there was something i posted there which kind of blew her mind and set it to racing .1 idea can blossom and bear fruit a little latter once the word and idea begins to get out.
at our finger tips is the greatest tool and weapon ever invented -our computers-instantly we can e-mail or send messages all around this world -just think of what we could accomplish if we the people stood hand and hand with one another and we all worked together with out any fear or indifference to one another no matter what your faith religion or beliefs are ,and skin color also has no bearing on any thing -put your differences aside as well as your precedences in other words -LEAVE YOUR EGOS AT THE DOOR .

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM AND WIN !
as i`ve had it with their crap how about the rest of the human race -SPECIES-

reply to post by alphabetaone

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Count me in as well.. Ithaca, NY had a great system going..not sure if they still do or not..they are also working on an automated personal bubble car/transportation system as well (just trying to keep it from being a one liner lol)

reply to post by St Udio

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The difference between me and Jim Jones is that:

a) I don't have mercury LOL
b) I'm not suggesting to actually do so, merely a scope of how people are willing to.

I am well cognizant of all the "Eco-Villages", I'm not certain they portray all the best options though. In fact, if you look at quite a few of them, they require a substantial investment simply to be a part of their "live off the land" municipality. That in itself would be somewhat counter-intuitive to the premise in a way. You know what I mean?


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