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Originally posted by Sonya610
(For the record those threads did not involve Jews, I happen to be rather fond of Jews, I have socialized with many and worked for quite a few, very bright and eccentric individuals on average).
And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused
He said Mama Mama
The President's a fool
Why do I have to keep reading
These technical manuals
And the joint chiefs of staff
And the brokers on Wall Street said
Don't make us laugh
You're smart kid
Time is linear
Memory's a stranger
History's for fools
Man is a tool in the hands
Of the great God Almighty
And they gave him command
Of a nuclear submarine
And sent him back in search of
The Garden of Eden
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Originally posted by asmeone2
reply to post by Frankidealist35
Censoring any point of veiw is reprehensible.
So putting forward a view that you hate people of african american appearance is ok?
I dont see the difference between that and saying you hate jewish people
So putting forward a view that you hate people of african american appearance is ok?
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Sonya610
#"I think that any kind of anti-religious comment on ATS should be looked at under scrutiny"#.
Organised religious institutions should NOT be exempt from criticism,condemnation or denouncement from anyone -they are just the same as any other type of institution with no ´special status´ whatsoever.
#"If someone wants to make a thoughtful comment on religion here with actual proof of their claims they should go ahead""
Ahh the irony-it is directly due to the fact that none of the 3000+ religions alive in the world have any ´proof´ that we find ourselves in the predicament we are in today.
We seem to be globally quagmired in relgious bigotry ie: different cults/sects bickering about who is more holy and superior than who...and with the possible exception of nationalism and political ideology,this mindset is one of the main causes of suffering,misery and death in the world today.
Its all very small minded,childish and insecure.
#"but, if they intend to just flame religious people I give them a of disapproval."#
Your right on that one-disliking someone just because of their religious opinion is unwise-unless of course they act like Nazis.
What is also wrong is when religious people return the favour by hating fellow human beings they have never met and labelling them Goys,Kuffars,heathens,blasphemors,heretics etc...
[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]
Originally posted by Britguy
No other historical subject is protected by laws and the penalty of long jail terms for questioning the official story, so why this one? What of other Genocides? The killing fields of Cambodia, the Ukrainian genocide etc?
Originally posted by neformore
No one denies those other things though, do they?
No one stands up and calls them fabrication.
No one stands up and says those heinous acts didn't happen solely because of the religion and race of the people invoved.
No one is trying to pass off Pol Pot as being "misunderstood" are they?
Attempting to deny/trivialise or justify the death of millions of people because of "racial superiority" is a reprehensible thing, don't you think?
Originally posted by Britguy
No other historical subject is protected by laws and the penalty of long jail terms for questioning the official story, so why this one? What of other Genocides? The killing fields of Cambodia, the Ukrainian genocide etc?
Originally posted by neformore
No one denies those other things though, do they?
No one stands up and calls them fabrication.
No one stands up and says those heinous acts didn't happen solely because of the religion and race of the people invoved.
Originally posted by neformore
Attempting to deny/trivialise or justify the death of millions of people because of "racial superiority" is a reprehensible thing, don't you think?
Why, why? Why can't you ask these questions.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I see. I agree. I guess these people shouldn't be silenced, but, I do think that they shouldn't go out and promote these ideas just because they're on the internet, outside of law enforcement and a public place, just to offend people.
The Roman-Catholic historian Edward Flannery distinguished four varieties of antisemitism[3]:
* Political and economic antisemitism, giving as examples Cicero and Charles Lindbergh;
* Theological or religious antisemitism, sometimes known as anti-Judaism;
* Nationalistic antisemitism, citing Voltaire and other Enlightenment thinkers, who attacked Jews for supposedly having certain characteristics, such as greed and arrogance, and for observing customs such as kashrut and shabbat;
* Racial antisemitism, as practiced in the Holocaust by the Nazis.
In addition, from the 1990s, some writers claim to have identified a new antisemitism, a form of antisemitism coming simultaneously from the far left, the far right, and radical Islam, which tends to focus on opposition to Zionism and a Jewish homeland in the State of Israel, and which may deploy traditional antisemitism motifs.[4] Proponents of the concept argue that anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, third worldism, and demonization of Israel or double standards applied to its conduct may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism. Critics of the concept argue that it conflates anti-Zionism with antisemitism, defines legitimate criticism of Israel too narrowly and demonization too broadly, trivializes the meaning of antisemitism, and exploits antisemitism in order to silence debate.