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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 05:58 PM by jakyll
reply to post by LogicalSolution




Why is it stupid? As time and time goes on, more and more facts come out that prove the holocaust couldn't have happened. The only real proof they have that the holocaust did happen is the thousands of survivor stories (everyone couldn't be making it up, right?) but when you read any of these stories, you realize they sound like something out a a fairy tale. So much baloney in them.


Because there is plenty of evidence to say genocide took place,just not accurate figures to give us a scale of it.

And those who are looking up the 'facts' nearly always fail to take into account the millions of non-Jews who were killed.

Genocide means the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national,racial,political,or cultural group.So along with the Jews you can include Slavs,Ethnic Poles,Soviet POWs,Roma(gypsies) Disabled,Mentally Ill,Homosexuals,Political Activists,Freemasons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
And most of them were being killed off before they started on the Jews.




It has to make you wonder, that if they have to change the number so much, was the number really ever more than 0 to begin with?


There's plenty of pictures of dead bodies to prove such a stupid bloody question wrong.






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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 06:26 PM by jakyll
reply to post by LogicalSolution




One of the first things Professor Meredith Cantor taught me in the photojournalism class I took in college, is that it doesn't matter what's in the photo, all that matters is what you say is in the photo.


And that guys a professor

Warning! This picture contains fluffy bunnies!




reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 06:35 PM by Phatcat
reply to post by jakyll


Hmm, it is intellectually unfair to make fun of his statement.

How many times now have journalists been caught presenting a picture, purportedly proving something, after which it has been discouvered the shots where set up? Or staged, if you will ?

I remember an example of a picture of people behind a fence, rapported to be prisoners in some conflict who where being maltreated.. afterwards, photo's showed up that proved the fence was only a couple meters long, and the 'victims' where paid to pose as they did..

Not saying this happened to Holocaust photo's, but it has happened. So in a very real sense, you should allways keep questioning, even things you can 'see'..


reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 06:48 PM by LogicalSolution
Originally posted by jakyll
reply to post by LogicalSolution




One of the first things Professor Meredith Cantor taught me in the photojournalism class I took in college, is that it doesn't matter what's in the photo, all that matters is what you say is in the photo.


And that guys a professor


She.


Originally posted by jakyll
Warning! This picture contains fluffy bunnies!


No, what it does contain is a pile of bodies, that could be any one, any where, any time, and could have died for any reason.

The photo does not show, nor contain any elements that prove that they are Jewish, and were Executed in a "death camp" during WWII.


-LS



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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 06:53 PM by jakyll
reply to post by Phatcat


Oh,of course its very easy to manipulate pictures and to manipulate with pictures,its an essential part of propaganda.

But with so many pictures and film footage from so many different sources,you have to agree that there was defenate mass murder going on.
The same with the Pacific war and the atrocities committed by the Japanese.

As i said though,its hard to know just what scale it was on.I personally believe the figures are lower....which means i can be arrested according to the laws on holocaust denial....wonder if it matters that i question the figures on all those who died at the hands of the Nazi's,not just the Jews







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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 07:00 PM by LogicalSolution
Originally posted by jakyll
reply to post by Phatcat


But with so many pictures and film footage from so many different sources,you have to agree that there was defenate mass murder going on.
The same with the Pacific war and the atrocities committed by the Japanese.


There were Nazi concentration camps for Jews, just as we had concentration camps for the Japanese here in America. Just as many Japanese died in our concentration camps, many Jews died in the Nazi concentration camps. But there was no plan to ever "exterminate" them. The majority of deaths were from Typhus and other common disease back then. Are you now going to say that the Nazis invented Typhus? I bet they invented AIDS too to kill all the black people.

-LS


reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 07:06 PM by jakyll
reply to post by LogicalSolution




She.


Apologies.



No, what it does contain is a pile of bodies, that could be any one, any where, any time, and could have died for any reason.


You said that it doesn't matter what's in the photo,all that matters is what you say is in the photo,i told you it was fluffy bunnies....




The photo does not show, nor contain any elements that prove that they are Jewish, and were Executed in a "death camp" during WWII.


I never claimed any of those things.This is actually a picture of Soviet POWs who were murdered by lethal injections or medical experiments.The photo was taken by a Nazi.Which is an important point.

Many photos of those persecuted/killed by the Nazi's were taken by themselves,some even show high ranking Nazi officers.Are they staged??



There were Nazi concentration camps for Jews, just as we had concentration camps for the Japanese here in America. Just as many Japanese died in our concentration camps, many Jews died in the Nazi concentration camps.


Can you prove they weren't experimented on??
Can you prove the photo's of these places are real??




I'm sure some will find this new thread interesting.

www.abovetopsecret.com...




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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 09:51 PM by jakyll
reply to post by alien




who is this 'they' I keep hearing so much about in so many of these replies???


(check no ones near...leaning over so i can whisper to you...)

The Jews.


Eeek! Someone's coming.Quick! Runway!

(legs it)








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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 10:01 PM by jakyll
reply to post by alien


Forgive my silliness,its late here and i've drank way to much coffee.lol.

When people talk about the Jews as 'They' it usually means as a collective,as there is a belief amongst some people that the western world is controlled by the Jewish people.Does that mean every single Jew in the world is in on it?
I highly doubt it.But thats the impression you get.Is there evidence to back it up? Not so much.






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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 10:03 PM by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Jay-in-AR




"factual google"

You mean one that has the facts that fit you?
Or one that does your research for you?

Also we need a factual bookstore and a factual university.
Oooo, and factual ATS.

Just messin with ya.
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