Obama's Motion to Dismiss Berg's lawsuit denied!?, page 5

reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity

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That's because you were born here. It is under the assumption that Obama was not, that he was born in Kenya and/or that he needed to become a naturalized citizen after returning from Indonesia as a child.

www.politifact.com...

here's the whole story, the seals are on the back by the way. this should end it.

this took me...oh...5 minutes....the O.P. is frankly "nuts"

[edit on 14-10-2008 by jimmyx]

reply to post by jimmyx

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That link prooves nothing. The St Petersberg paper is rabidly a democratic mouth piece in Fla. Thats like listening to Sarah Brady and saying that she never tells lies!!! What the court has ordered is the vault copy of his birth certificate. The fat lady ain't sang yet on this question and it won't be until he complies with the court order of the judge in this case!
Zindo

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by jimmyx

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That link prooves nothing. The St Petersberg paper is rabidly a democratic mouth piece in Fla. Thats like listening to Sarah Brady and saying that she never tells lies!!! What the court has ordered is the vault copy of his birth certificate. The fat lady ain't sang yet on this question and it won't be until he complies with the court order of the judge in this case!
Zindo

the paper has won 6 pulitzer prizes and top ten newspaper awards in many catagories.

sptimes.com...


this is hardly a "rabid democratic mouthpiece" newspaper. unless you think TIME magazine is a "rabid democratic mouthpiece"

reply to post by jimmyx

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Then why is it that his own family repeatedly tell everyone who asks that he was born in Kenya. Are his family trying to purposely screw with him? He seems to take time to keep in touch with them. Why would they lie about this FACT????

Zindo

reply to post by BlueTriangle

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She released her delegates in order to show party unity. I'm sure that the 'Pitbull in a Pantsuit' will not let anyone else take her place on the ballot if these allegations turn out to be true. I'm sure that Democrats will support her, especially those that backed her in the first place. Just my opinion, only time will tell.

ED. to add: This is the final tally of votes at the DNCC:

The results reported by the DNCC: Obama 3188.5 (+894.5), Clinton 1010.5 (-988.5), Not Voting 220 (+94 from superdelegate uncommitted). What this shows us is that at least 94 Clinton delegates abstained from voting, instead of voting for either Clinton or Obama.

Source.

[edit on 14-10-2008 by JaxonRoberts]

reply to post by jimmyx

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That is not the vault copy of the certificate.The vault copy will have the delivery doctor's signature,Hospital name,time of birth and birth stats etc. This copy does not have those particulars.

If Obama has lied about all of this he should be prosecuted for fraud and whatever else they can throw at him. If he is innocent I'd like to know why he did not simply produce the documents upon request? He is accountable to the American people as a Senator, as a candidate and most of all if he were President. He is sworn to uphold the Constitution.

The most frightening part of all of this is the possibility that once sworn in he would have been protected:

docs.justia.com...:2008cv04083/281573/18/0.pdf

'If Obama is not able to prove he is currently a “natural born” citizen and he is elected as the President of the United States, he is violating our United States Constitution and we are at serious risk of a Constitutional Crisis. Furthermore, if Obama is sworn into the United
States Office of the Presidency, neither Plaintiff nor the general public will have the right to bring suit for redress as a result of all the immunities the President of the United States carries, thus Plaintiff and all the general public will be further harmed as they will be forced to live with the grave consequences."

I would think that he could be impeached in such a case or there would be other remedies.

If Berg is correct he deserves a medal. If he's wrong he deserves a pat on the back for standing forth despite the opposition and sacrifice he's made. An American citizen has the right to public disclosure regarding a "public servant", it's the law and a right.

If Obama is guilty he betrayed every American citizen that supported and would have voted for him. Futhermore, he embarrassed and shamed them. He also betrayed all of the Americans that would not have voted for him, as he would have been their President, too, if he was elected. I feel betrayed already by the fact that he's been playing games by not just bringing the proof forward that I am entitled to as an American.

God help us all if this is true!

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 14-10-2008 by ballast] to correct link

[edit on 14-10-2008 by ballast]

reply to post by ballast

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The link above that I just posted pertains to the webot forcast for the 15th that may pertain to this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Realtruth

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I don't believe that it was overlooked by McCain, how could he miss it? I suggest that maybe he used good judgement. Had he brought all of this up he would have looked like villian. There's already an abundance of attacks from both sides.

Plus, it isn't up to him. It's up to the judge and the jury if one is appointed. It's completely out of his hands.

Someone made a point on an earlier post about the fact that the judge was Clinton appointed and that may make a difference. I don't think so, the evidence is either there or it isn't. The Constitutional laws and all of the other applicable laws are cut and dried.

Plus, it sounds as if there may be a jury, I'm not quite clear on that point. In addition, court records are a matter of public record, so the judge would have to be an idiot to try to do anything the least bit questionable.

This entire episode will be scutinized and analyzed now and as a historical record probably for decades to come.

reply to post by Realtruth

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I think McCain is well aware of this. He doesn't need to do a thing, and conveniently it's being filed by a lifelong Democrat. Why get his hands dirty when a member of Obama's party is willing to do it for him.

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