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posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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If either of his parents where citizens of another country at the time of the birth and he was born out of country, they will have to use the standard of the fatherscitizenship to determine his actual birth citizenship. In Kenya, wher his father still had citizenship, all rights of citizenship are determined by the father, not the mother. So, he is NOT a natural born US citizen. I also find this strange becasue the suit is being profered by a Klinton lackey lawyer, specificaly Ms. Klinton!!! Naturalised citizens may not run for the Presidency. They can only run to the top of either the senate or the congress, or the cabinate.

Zindo




posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by whiteraven
If BHO was born in Kenya that does not disquaify him from running for President, does it?

McCain was born in Panama. This is well known and it has not been that big of an issue.


Yes it does disqualify him. McCain was born to 2 American parents in Panama. They were there due to military commitments. McCain is still considered a natural born American.

Obama on the other hand, was not born to 2 American parents, his father was Kenyan. His mother was not in Kenya (or where ever) due to a military commitment. He was later adopted by an Indonesian (Soetoro) and enrolled in Indonesian school at a time when Dual citizenship was not allowed. He had to be an Indonesian citizen to go to school there.

Later, in his 20's, Obama traveled under (what is believed to be) an Indonesian passport, making him still an Indonesian citizen after the age of majority.

So even if he WAS born in Hawaii, he would have had to reassert his oath of citizenship and there is no record of that either.

If the allegations are false, Obama could easily put this to rest by providing the vault copy of his birth certificate - unless it doesn't exist, then he's the biggest fraud since the bailout bill



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 10:47 AM
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If the allegations are false, Obama could easily put this to rest by providing the vault copy of his birth certificate - unless it doesn't exist, then he's the biggest fraud since the bailout bill


WOW what a thought,

What sane person would let this go this far?

I would say he wouldn't do such a thing,

Will we ever know?



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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I'm aftraid we will never know! The media is in the tank for Obama. They will never ask the tough questions and back him into a corner where he HAS to prove citizenship.
I was unaware of this question until today.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by redhatty
If the allegations are false, Obama could easily put this to rest by providing the vault copy of his birth certificate - unless it doesn't exist, then he's the biggest fraud since the bailout bill


I guess the real question is why doesn't Obama just EASILY put this all to rest by getting a vault copy of his birth certificate and telling everyone to shut up?

Maybe, for some reason, it isn't so easy.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 04:37 AM
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Because Obama Can't get a vault copy of his birth certificate. one doesn't exist.
just like he can't get an Oath of allegiance or a certification of citizenship they don't exist.

the fallout from this is going to be big. If its proven Obama couldn't run for POTUS and the DNC knew it, they will be finished as a party no one would trust them after this. Plus heads in the FEC would roll for not looking in to his eligibility.



posted on Oct, 9 2008 @ 04:59 AM
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His entire family says he was born in Kenya.
I think this is going to be one of those October surprises we hear about.


Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. Reports reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii. At her late stage of pregnancy (which apparently are normal restrictions, to avoid births during flights). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.www.newswithviews.com...



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 08:17 AM
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Has this video been posted?

gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...




Someone with the unlikely name of Molotov Mitchell has produced a 10 minute and 52 second video [watch it below] that could well change the terms of the election -- if enough people watch it. Illuminati Productions has posted it to YouTube. They have provided the voting public a very professionally and engagingly done video generation equivalent of a long detailed article in a place like


Interesting things pointed out fact check.org, who checked the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate is owned by Annenberg,

Obama's Annenberg



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 08:23 AM
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Oh and is this the reason Obama refuses to release his college information, it has the correct birth place listed?




There’s another possible explanation behind FactCheck’s positions. Just last year, FactCheck’s primary funding source, the Annenberg Foundation, also gave $50,000 to the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence for “efforts to reduce gun violence by educating the public and by enacting and enforcing regulations governing the gun industry.” Annenberg made a similar grant for $100,000 in 2005. (source)


www.patterico.com...

I did not know this, to me this is huge in regards to accountability and credibility
www.patterico.com... orts-of-the-obama-campaign-to-obscure-it/
The Obama-Ayers Connection At The Chicago Annenberg Challenge Comes Into A Little Better Focus — In Spite Of The Efforts Of The Obama Campaign To Obscure It



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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Doesn't the constitution say that if you're born of American parents you're automatically an American citizen no matter where the birth takes place?

And along these same lines, you're an American citizen if you were born in America of parents with any citizenship?


Very telling in my opinion that Obama won't release information pertaining to where he was born.


Along these same lines, what happens if the President-Elect is unable to fulfill the obligations of the office by inaguration time?
Does the VP-Elect automatically become the President?


I'm thinking the Dems figure that if they can get their guy into office it'll be easy to change laws around to fit the situation or simply ignore it altogether....



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Desert Dawg
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I'm thinking the Dems figure that if they can get their guy into office it'll be easy to change laws around to fit the situation or simply ignore it altogether....


Seems that way to me,

IN Berg's video I think he explains the citizenship qualification.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 10:49 AM
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One of the main sources of funding The Annenberg Foundation is none other than George Soros. The Annenbergs where socialists of the first order when they where alive. Their foundation is known for practices that go against the grain of constitutionalists.

Zindo



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by ZindoDoone
One of the main sources of funding The Annenberg Foundation is none other than George Soros. The Annenbergs where socialists of the first order when they where alive. Their foundation is known for practices that go against the grain of constitutionalists.

Zindo


HI Zindo,

Correct,

I wonder why of all places, this conspiracy site isn't paying closer attention.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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I think you could possibly tie this all in together, first the manufactured oil crisis, then the manipulation of the stock market, Soros style

I am still looking for the speech where Maurice Strong says, at the right time he and his minions will manipulate the maket to get their guy elected

[edit on 103131p://bSunday2008 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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Because it's not true... 1. The Annenburg Foundation supports mcCain. 2. Only the husband is dead, his wife still runs the foundation and was Reagan's Chief of Protocol - a Republican.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 10:59 AM
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I contend that it is just as bad if the person who gets elected STILL WORKS FOR ANY INTERESTS OTHER THAN AMERICAN INTERESTS.Frat-daddy Bush,Wammy Obammy,Johnny "the pissed" McCain,all of these quacks are tools and mid-level managers at best.And when I say interests,I mean the interests of the american people,NOT dole fruit co. or corporate interests.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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I believe it to be true that Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge,



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by daeoeste
I contend that it is just as bad if the person who gets elected STILL WORKS FOR ANY INTERESTS OTHER THAN AMERICAN INTERESTS.Frat-daddy Bush,Wammy Obammy,Johnny "the pissed" McCain,all of these quacks are tools and mid-level managers at best.And when I say interests,I mean the interests of the american people,NOT dole fruit co. or corporate interests.


Yes tools, dear god don't let me be a tool, I have not endorsed any candidate on this forum,



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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Ha Ha Ha.you are not a toll as far as I can tell,friend.Do you see my point though?The reason why we do not elect foreigners to the office of president is to prevent a conflict of interest.There is a MAJOR conflict of interest when these candidates work for multi-national entities which get no public scrutiny.





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