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Obama's Motion to Dismiss Berg's lawsuit denied!?


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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 10:26 PM by daddyroo45


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Where are the facts on this certificate?Attending Physican signature,birth stats,length,weight,sex,foot prints etc.This is not a vault copy of a Certificate of live birth!



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 10:47 PM by jmdewey60


How did Obama ever get a US passport? He could go to prison for filing false info to the government, if any of this is true. If he had an Indonesian passport, I would think it would have expired by the time he took his world tour during his college days, to Pakistan and Kenya. He would have had to apply for a new one and it would have to be a US version, unless Indonesia will send a renewal by mail.



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:05 PM by JaxonRoberts


Originally posted by jmdewey60
How did Obama ever get a US passport? He could go to prison for filing false info to the government, if any of this is true. If he had an Indonesian passport, I would think it would have expired by the time he took his world tour during his college days, to Pakistan and Kenya. He would have had to apply for a new one and it would have to be a US version, unless Indonesia will send a renewal by mail.


He could get a US passport using the same birth certificate he is now displaying. As for the Indonesian passport, you are assuming that they have the same expiration period as US passports. I for one don't know how long they are valid, and it may differ from the US.



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:16 PM by ZindoDoone


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Thats exactly the point here. How in heck do you get a passport from another country when your NOT a citizen of that country???? If you have declared yourself a citizen of another country at any time in your life you are NOT considered a natural citizen of THIS country! Citizenship laws are quite exacting in this regard! Obama needs to prove his right to be President here. This is NOT a joke and its very serious!

Zindo



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:28 PM by ballast


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The family saying that he was born in Kenya is very interesting. They could simply refuse to comment. It sure makes me wonder how they feel about him as a person, a family member and a presidential candidate. It doesn't look good, either way.



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:39 PM by JaxonRoberts


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Umm, dude, you need to go read my posts on the last few pages. I'm on your side!



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:44 PM by ZindoDoone


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I realise that, LOL. I was just reinterating the facts,LOL. I do that. I'm anal retentive sometimes!!!LOL


Zindo



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reply posted on 14-10-2008 @ 11:52 PM by jmdewey60


Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
He could get a US passport using the same birth certificate he is now displaying. As for the Indonesian passport, you are assuming that they have the same expiration period as US passports. I for one don't know how long they are valid, and it may differ from the US.

Not that particular one because the date on it is from last year.

He must have had an earlier one and why is he not showing us the one he must have used to get his passport. Also if he was using a US passport to go to Pakistan, why not show us his stamp from that country on his old passport?


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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:21 AM by David9176


This is really some amazing stuff, especially with it being backed by a longtime democrat. I'm looking forward into what develops from this.

And as for McCain...he's not going to bring this up...although if he's reading this right now he'd probably like to. He's probably being cautious and making sure this is truely legit first...which would be in his best interest.



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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 09:43 AM by beforetime


i am glad SOME people are smart enough to figure out obama is not on the up and up.
it's truly sad so many follow him and his words blindly.

if this was any other candidate in history..the American people would have said show us now or get out of the election.


so ask yourself why did it take this long for obama?

Not to mention if obama has indeed lied...he has set democracy back to the stone age.
and stole millions of dollar's..because he would have knew he was not a American born citizen.

Then ask yourself if he indeed isn't a American born citizen..WTF was he trying to do cause a revolt in America from the inside out?
I say it will all come out in the wash as the old people use to say.

so ask yourself why did it take this long for obama?



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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 10:38 AM by ZindoDoone



Then ask yourself if he indeed isn't a American born citizen..WTF was he trying to do cause a revolt in America from the inside out?
I say it will all come out in the wash as the old people use to say.

so ask yourself why did it take this long for obama?


Thats exactly what Kruschev told us in the 60's. That the communists would conquer us from within. Not invade our shores. Looks like maybe he was right. Obama and the Dems socialist agenda is being played out every day 'from within'!

Zindo



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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 12:37 PM by Stormdancer777



African Press: Michelle Obama Lashes Out at "White Racists" ...Update: African Press Stands By Their Story!



Did she or didn't she if so , why?

gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...

africanpress.wordpress.com... step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/#comment-36039



Accusing API of colluding with American internet bloggers in an effort to bring down her husband, Mrs Obama said she decided to call API because of what she termed, API’s help to spread rumours created by American bloggers and other racist media outlets in their efforts to damage a black man’s name, saying she hopes African Media was mature enough to be in the front to give unwavering support to her husband, a man Africans should identify themselves with. When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”

...When API asked Mrs Obama to comment on why Dr Corsi was arrested by the Kenyan government and whether she thought Kenya’s Prime Minister Mr Raila Odinga was involved in Dr Corsi’s arrest, she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.

When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy.



AFPI add phone number to verify story,
NB: For verification, we can be reached on 004793299739

weird

[edit on 123131p://bWednesday2008 by Stormdancer777]



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reply posted on 15-10-2008 @ 11:57 PM by dude77


you know .. watching this last debate and all the ensuing coverage of it and the rest of the election race .. they're covering it all as if everything is just 'a go' .. it's like this citizenship issue is irrelevant in the msm .. well either they're not covering it at all because it IS irrelevant and he is a citizen or because they're trying to cover it up ?

.. this makes me sick to my stomach .. the thought of a foreign born citizen or even someone with dual citizenship becoming our President .. this would trump any constitutional subversion Bush has undertaken and that's saying much



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reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 01:48 PM by beforetime


Until he show's the American people his real birth certificate and proof he is a American born citizen.
And proof he did not give up his citizenship when he lived in India.
Because at that time he was there.
they was not allowed to have duel citizenship and attend public school's.

If he CAN NOT and wants to PUT OFF the American people..and not show us proof
We will NOT accept this man as president of the United States of America!!!!!!!

It will be on the back of every patriotic Americans mind.
and will not be took lightly.



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reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 02:06 PM by jibeho


I have recently visited obamacrimes.com looking for updates on the lawsuit and have found nothing. I am sure this will be held up in court until after the election. I wish someone would just ask him the question directly. I would love to hear his well rehearsed eloquent response.

It is simply amazing to me how he could possibly get to this point in the election with this fat carrot dangling out in front of the entire world. This has the rotten stench of an overstuffed diaper pale.



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reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 02:29 PM by ZindoDoone


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I think that the court proceedings are today the 16th. Maybe later tonight or tomorrow we will know whether or not they get a continuance or an answer.

Zindo



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reply posted on 16-10-2008 @ 04:34 PM by JaxonRoberts


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Just to be clear, it was Indonesia not India that Obama lived and went to school in. This is an important distinction. India is mostly Hindu and Indonesia is mostly Muslim.



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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 02:27 PM by ballast


Here is the Pennsylvania filing from the Utah suit citing the Berg vs. Obama as an "intervention of right". "Mickey Mouse" as candidate, naw, never, then we'd have somebody to vote for!

docs.justia.com...:2008cv04083/281573/19/

I was going to quote the "Mickey Mouse" part, but can't on a pdf displayed in this fashion on the internet. It's right at the beginning, take a look.



Edit for link:

docs.justia.com...:2008cv04083/281573/19/

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reply posted on 17-10-2008 @ 02:32 PM by David9176


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Link is not working...404 file not found....are u sure the link is correct?



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