How China has Created a New Slave Empire in Africa., page 3
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reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Areal51
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I'd love to see your ass dropped into the middle of anywhere sub-Saharan to see if in fact you would be able to feed yourself. How about a rain forest in the Congo? That should give you a head start with plenty of wildlife to choose from. Its aisles won't lead you directly to food like Wal-Mart, and your GPS/iPhone would be useless. How good are you at remembering terrain that changes overnight? Guaranteed you'd succumb in three days or less.

And everyday that you're alive, just yards from your position, the native Pygmies would be enjoying their catch of the day, and having dinner conversation about a stupid person roaming about crying when food and shelter was available everywhere.


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reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 11:55 AM by karby
"China's New Slave Empire?"

LOL, more like "The Daily Mail's weekly moan about how the non-whites in the world don't want us meddling in their daily lives anymore, and are creating economic opportunities for themselves with out us there to exploit them instead, whaaaaa!"

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Loam, I take no issue with you, but i am concerned with your main source, the Daily Mail. (This topic sharing the same title as that article.)

IIMHO, The Daily Mail is not a credible source.
Here is an experiment performed by a man, who gave up all other news sources, except for the Daily Mail, for an extended period of time. The results will not surprise you , i guarantee it :
My Daily Mail hell

Keep reading 'The Daily Mail', and you'll eventually come to believe that the sky is falling.
These people at the Daily Mail are the guys that will print anything, and i mean ANYTHING, for the sake of their own financial benefit, and then pass it off as "real news", as long as it appears to be 'believable'--that is, facts and sources can not be easily traces and/or checked. The term 'alarmist' is too far from being an understatement when it comes to describing them. The daily mail is very well known for being anti-chinese, anti-black, anti-muslim...well, basically anti-anybody-who's-not-white conservative rag in the UK which no one outside of the right wing spectrum takes seriously.

Besides that my overall sentiment on this stands.
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Try this: google the terms "China Africa" then explore the results. I promise you, 99.9% of the alarmists who are oh-so-very concerned(pfft, yeah right :@@ about the fate of Africa and Africans are on the so called "conservative" side; rich white men who see Africa as their own personal playground, the Africans as their personal economic slaves, and the Chinese trying to set up shop in "their" backyard. The Daily Mail falls squarely into this camp. They don't give a s... about those "poor, defenseless" Africans who are at the mercy of the "bloodthirsty ruthless, animals" also known as the Chinese, they're just angry and jealous that the Chinese are actually making headway, where their paternalistic mindset in dealing with Africans has failed completely. Not only that, they are absolutely scared sh..less, when they realize that Africans now have the potential to see the worthlessness in dealing with Europe and Europeans, and that they may turn their economic interests toward the east and South, for Sino-African, and Latin-African economic relationships instead.

It amazes me how many people here disregard the hundreds of years of history of what the CONTINENT** has been through, and even go so far as to deny Europe's hand in it, placing the blame soles on the Africans themselves. Even more egregious is the fact that some people will even say that Europe's involvement in Africa BETTERED the state of the continent when common sense and historical analysis clearly show otherwise.

To those in the so-called "Enlightened West" who think everything about the African continent is nothing but destruction, suffering, and death, I ask you to, please, put the cheeseburgers down, turn off the TV, go outside, and get a clue. Yes, the continent of Africa is still staggering even after it seems that the rest of the world has moved on. But even as it stands, even as bad as it is, things tend to get better when the west is not covertly and underhandedly involved.

Rwanda, which was once home to one of the worst genocides of last decade, thanks to the political sabotage of the French. Now, while the country obviously still has its issues, it is now seeing some economic and political upturns, with a good degree of success:
LA Times
Women Play key role in...
Most Rwandans know that the French were complicit with what happened in their country, even though France deny this. Rwanda is now almost completely anti-French, and seem to be doing a hell of a lot better without them.

Botswana, another black African country that the west ignore when talking about the doom and gloom that befall those 'inferior' Africans, seem to be doing quite well for themselves, without the West's interference:
Botswana

Angola is a country once marred by 25 years of civil war, mostly due to the native population getting tired of being crushed underfoot by the Europeans, and revolting against them. Even though many of the population are still poor because of the civil war, the country overall looks to be getting their economy back on track:
Angola's economic boom

Ghana, is a relatively stable, peaceful, and successful country in west Africa, yet, you'll never hear about them when the West talks about those 'inferior' Africans: Ghana

Nigeria we hear about a lot, especially when it comes to the delta region strife, and corruption. What you don't hear is that the Nigerians are the only African country to fully pay off their Paris Club debt, that they have some of the best successes of eradicating corruption from the highest levels of their government, and that their economy is growing monstrously fast. Currently Nigeria, is America's largest African trading partner: Nigeria

Rome wasn't built in a day. African economies won't be either.
So to all those, especially in America, who've written off an entirely diverse continent such as Africa as a basket case, my advice to you is keep writing. With the way the US economy is currently going, an election which could possibly put another neo-con in the white house, food and fuel prices rising, and two wars still being fought in the mid-east, I don't see why anyone's focus should be on what the Chinese and Africans are doing.

**The US education system is supposed to be one of the best in the world, and yet, there are still some who classify Africa as a country. shame.
perhaps that bailout money could have been used to buy people some maps so that people can look up places such as the Iraq and the South Africa to better the futures of their children.:lo

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reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 11:57 AM by karby
Originally posted by Areal51
reply to
post by Sonya610


I'd love to see your ass dropped into the middle of anywhere sub-Saharan to see if in fact you would be able to feed yourself. How about a rain forest in the Congo? That should give you a head start with plenty of wildlife to choose from. ...


Please ignore Sonya, as she's also a member of Stormfront (she admitted it). Just let her rant in a corner by herself.


reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 12:02 PM by haidian

How the World Sees China

Dec 11, 2007

The rise of anti-Americanism in recent years has given China a decided image advantage over the United States. Considerably more people around the world have an unfavorable view of the America than think poorly of China. But signs in Pew's polling suggest that perceptions of China's increasing power – both military and economic – could boost anti-Chinese sentiment in years to come. In fact, there are some signs that this has already begun to occur in Western Europe where worries about China's economic power are on the rise.

China's growing presence on the world stage is clearly evident in Africa and Latin America. Majorities in most countries in each of these regions say China exerts at least a fair amount of influence on their countries.

In eight of 10 sub-Saharan African countries surveyed, majorities say that China has a "great deal" or a "fair amount" of influence on the way things are going in their countries. And in four of seven Latin American countries majorities also say the same thing about China's influence on their countries.

In Africa, China's influence is now seen as rivaling American influence. In such major nations as Ethiopia, South Africa, and Nigeria, equally huge numbers see America and China exerting an important influence in their countries. Ghana, Uganda and Kenya still rate American influence more potent in their nations. But in Senegal, Mali, and Ivory Coast, greater numbers say China has an important influence than say the same about the United States. Most striking is that while clear majorities in 8 of 10 sub-Saharan African nations surveyed say that America's influence in their countries is generally good, China's influence is almost universally viewed as having a more beneficial impact on African countries than does that of the United States.

pewresearch.org...

that's what average african people really think of china



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reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 02:09 PM by Sonya610
The fact the Chinese are willing to go in there at all is amazing, the Congo is an EXTREMELY brutal place. I know some Chinese workers have been forced to flee the country because of the amazing amount of violence. The ops original article started with violent mobs nearly beating the reporter to death, and that is nothing compared to the other things that go on there.

I don't like to think of what will happen to the forests, but I have to admire the bravery of the Chinese.


In Bunia, the town's population has swelled from 6,000 to 120,000 people. Most have left everything—crops, possessions, their families—to escape the ongoing massacres in the bush. Through a network of local human rights organizations, I arrange to meet with a handful of survivors. One Sunday morning, over a hundred people show up to tell their stories.

Draping a green batik cloth over her left shoulder, Chantal says that at 5 in the morning on Aug. 27, 2002, she woke to gunfire in the gold-mining town of Mabanga-Gélé. She was alone with her 6-year-old son, Claude, as men armed with machetes entered her house. "Today we are going to cut off your arm so you can't prepare mandro [traditional beer]" they said to her. She tells me, "They cut off my arm and took it outside where they had made a fire. They cooked it, while they were drinking our mandro, and ate it with the rest of the beans and rice." Claude had escaped into the bush with relatives. Then, she says flatly, "They told me they were going to find my husband and eat his heart."

After the attack, Chantal spent three months in the Drodro Hospital, where, later, the patients were killed bed by bed. Then her husband abandoned her because she can no longer work. In the village, Chantal's mother, Eliza Dz'da, lived with another daughter, Georgette, and Georgette's four children. That August morning, Eliza says, she heard Lendu women ululating as the fighters entered the village to attack. Georgette and Eliza's grandchildren tried to escape. All of them, Eliza says, were caught and killed. "We had a shed made of leaves, and they tore it down to build the fire. They took our leftover food and cooked pieces of Georgette and the children," she tells me.



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