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Modern research in migrations and genetics confirming Pre-historic civilizations

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posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 06:33 PM
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Modern Genetic Evidence confirming the existince of Pre-Historic civilizations

Humans migrated from Atlantis and other prehistoric civilizations to areas like Egypt, the Americas, Tibet, China, India etc. around 12,000 years ago when the earth underwent catastrophic changes
www.edgarcayce.org...





The past goes back along ways, Columbus was not the first here
www.grahamhancock.com...

And neither were native americans in 10,500 BC-
www.csmonitor.com...

Why are there bearded caucasians in the art of the oldest known people in the america's, the Olmec who are as old as recorded history goes back? There are caucasians in prehistoric south america!




'Olmec' head from la Venta, Gulf of Mexico. Current theories of racial dispersal cannot explain the presence of this negroid face this early in the Americas



The axis of the Way of the Dead.



View down on the apex of the Pyramid of the Sun






Mr. Li Hongzhi
falundafa.org...

Many people say that the Mayan culture was related to today’s Mexicans. Actually, it had nothing at all to do with the Mexicans, who are only a mixed race of the Spaniards and the indigenous people. The Mayan culture, on the other hand, belonged to the previous civilization’s period in history. That human race was destroyed in Mexico, and only a small number of people survived. But the Mayan culture was directly related to Mongolians. I won’t get into the details here. Humankind doesn’t know its own historical origins. The same is true for the Caucasians. During the last great flood—the last human civilization was destroyed by a great flood—all the big mountains on the earth that had elevations of less than two thousand meters were submerged, and only the people who lived above two thousand meters survived. The story of Noah’s Ark is true. During that great flood the Western culture was completely destroyed, and the Eastern culture was also in ruins. But the mountain people who lived in the areas of the Himalayan and Kunlun Mountains and who were like rural people were fortunate enough to escape—the Chinese people who lived in the Kunlun Mountains survived. At that time the Eastern culture was well-developed; Yellow River Diagram (Hetu), Luo River Writings (Luoshu), Book of Changes (I Ching), Tai Chi, Eight Trigrams (Bagua), and so on were inherited from the past. People say that they were created by this person or that person of a later generation. Those people only modified them and made them public again. They weren’t created by those people at all, and were all from prehistoric cultures. Although these things were passed down in China, there were even more of them during China’s development in history. More were preserved in ancient times, but they became fewer and fewer as they were passed down. So it’s a nation with a rich cultural background and deep historical origins—that’s China. The Caucasian culture, on the other hand, was wiped out after it was completely submerged by that great flood. At that time, alongside the continent of Europe there was another continent that also sank. That was their most developed area, and it sank, too. So the Caucasians have redeveloped from nothing—no civilization at all—to the science they have today.

The science of ancient China is different from this empirical science of the West. Many archeologists have discussed these issues with me, and I explained everything to them. They also felt that this is the case, because they had many puzzling questions that couldn’t be explained. As I just said, humankind’s understanding of the universe can’t possibly go much further. Nowadays, the starting point of many scientists’ research is wrong. Those who’ve made some achievements in their fields, in particular, are unable to let go of them. They’ve defined what they have understood and set limits. Many of you in the audience are students studying outside China, Ph.D.’s., and Master’s degree holders with open minds. You’ll find that their definitions are correct within the scope of their realms, but that once you go beyond their understanding and their realm the definitions are wrong and restrictive. A truly accomplished scientist is one who dares to break through these limits. For Einstein, too, what he said was only correct within the realm of his understanding; but beyond that realm, what he said is found to be wrong. Do you see the principle? This is because when humans have ascended, when the state of your thinking approaches the high-level truth, and when you approach high levels, you’ll find that the understandings at low levels are wrong. This is how it is."






Edgar Cayce spoke of Lemuria, which was one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, it is now destroyed, and deep under the Pacific ocean-



Here are some images of some Megalithic remains of civilization that are now under the pacific ocean




Lemuria is often associated with bird headed beings which may have existed there-

Is Garuda, the mythical birdman of the Hindus,


The Hopi Native american Kachina doll-





[edit on 27-9-2008 by Hollywood11]




posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 06:34 PM
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At the time of Lemuria there was an extensive network of underground tunnels used by people worldwide to travel the world very quickly. However, it was the downfall of Lemuria. In 10,500 BC there was a huge War between Atlantis and Lemuria taking place. The final battle took place near Mauii, and the are of the famous Maui moon craters was where the Lemurians retreated underground. The Atlanteans sealed them in, in the inner earth. The famous Craters in the Iao valley are remants of the battle






more info
www.hiddenmysteries.org...

In addition to these artifacts of which only a few have been mentioned, additional records contain histories of our universe. One set of records lists the location of seven pyramids around the world which are connected magnetically. They are also connected by underground tunnels. Beings can lay down and get in a capsule and travel at 1200 miles per hour to these pyramids and inhabited cities of our Inner Earth, including two cities beneath our oceans. These 7 pyramids were built thousands of years ago and all are identical in size and contain duplicates of the records and artifacts in Giza.

The first of the seven is located in Cairo, Egypt, (Giza) of course. the second is in the Kunlun Shan Mountains near Cherchen, China, known as the Chorkhlik area. The third is underground at Easter Island, appox. 2,000 miles due west of Salta, Argentina. (The faces on the statues at Easter Island are those of space g-ds who settled the earth at one time during the past. The fourth pyramid is near the Bermuda Triangle, buried to a depth that is not accessible to marine exploration yet. The fifth is in Mexico at the northeast point of the Yucatan Peninsula. The sixth is located in South America near Ilhado Bananal, Brazil. This location is also marked with a descending tunnel of 65 degrees to great depths of the earth - possibly the secret entrance to Inner Earth. The seventh and last of the identical pyramids is located at Mindanao, under the surface.

So there you have it explorers. Go and seek. And ye shall find. All the mysteries are not in Egypt. Some may be at home near you. Perhaps in your own back yard.

The seven pyramids constructed in key global locations are inter-connected. They were built for specific purposes. The Mother Center is the central area for the treasured records and artifacts from the beginning of all creation to the ultimate end. This tomb, which we have detailed previously, is similar to the capsules that are currently buried in various parts of the world contains samplings of our history, our knowledge, our technology and our style of life. These capsules, placed deep in the earth, with blueprints located in Washington, are for any possible survivors of this civilization that might endure the coming holocost. With it firmly planted in your mind, back in the 40's, foresaw the coming tribulations and thus planted an historical review of our civilization, it is not too difficult to perceive that ancients could not be destroyed by devastation.

Other Inhabited Planets are also mentioned in the Hall of Records.




More DNA evidence
www.redicecreations.com...

If there is confusion about human origins Edgar Cayce can make it more clear
www.shellac.org...
www.dreamscape.com...


Man started out as semi etheric beings, but as material and selfish desires increased we fell further into the earth plane and fully materiialized as the 5 races

In the period, then -- some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India -- there lived in this land of Atlantis one Amilius, who had first noted that of the separations of the beings as inhabited that portion of the earth's sphere or plane of those peoples into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much rather of the nature of thought forms, or able to push out of themselves in that direction in which its development took shape in thought -- much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake in the present. As these took form, by the gratifying of their own desire for that as built or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set -- much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that of color as partook of its surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red, or the mixture peoples -- or colors; known then later by the associations as red race. These, then, able to use in their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as has been followed more closely in that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others -- and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples are far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still remains -- as has that influence of those peoples in that life of those peoples to whom those did escape during the periods of destruction make or influence the lives of those peoples to whom they came. As they may in the present, either through the direct influence of being regenerated, or reincarnated into the earth, or through that of the mental application on through the influences as may be had upon thought of individuals or groups by speaking from that environ.



posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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The point at which we fell from semi etheric beings to fully material happened sometime between 200,000 BC and 50,000 BC


Q. Was Atlantis one of the five points at which man appeared in the beginning, being the home of the red race?

A. One of the five points. As has been given, in what is known as Gobi, India, in Carpathia, or in that known as the Andes, and that known as in the western plain of what is now called America -- the five places. In their presentation, as we find, these -- in the five places, as man (Let's get the difference in that as first appeared (as thought forms) in what is known as Atlantis, and that as man appearing from those projections in the five places -- and, as has been given, from their environ took on that as became necessary for the meeting of those varying conditions under which their individualities and personalities began to put on form) -- one in the white, another in the brown, another in the black, another in the red. These, as we find, taking that form -- Would snow be the place for the black? or the sun the place for the white? or the desert and the hills for the white or the black? as were partakers of those things that brought about those variations in that which enters, or becomes as the outer presentation, or the skin, or the pigment that is presented in same.

Q. Did the appearance of the five races occur simultaneously?

A. Occurred at once.

Q. Describe the earth's surface at the period of the five projections?

A. This has been given. In the first, or that known as the beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of Eden, in that land which lies now much in the desert, yet much in mountain and much in rolling lands there. The extreme northern portions were then the southern portions, or the polar regions were then turned to where they occupied more of the tropical and semi-tropical regions; hence it would be hard to discern or discriminate the change. The Nile entered into the Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and very fertile. What is now the central portion of this country, or the Mississippi basin, was then all in the ocean; only the plateau was existent, or the regions that are now portions of Nevada, Utah and Arizona formed the greater part of what we know as the United States. That along the Atlantic board formed the outer portion then, or the lowlands of Atlantis. The Andean, or the Pacific coast of South America, occupied then the extreme portion of Lemuria. The Urals and the northern regions of same were turned into a tropical land. The desert in the Mongolian land was then the fertile portion. This may enable you to form some concept of the status of the earth's representation at that time! The oceans were then turned about; they no longer bear their names, yet from whence obtained they their names? What is the legend, even as to their names?

Q. Are the following the correct places? Atlantean, the red?

A. Atlantean and American, the red race.

Q. Upper Africa for the black?

A. Or what would be known now as the more western portion of upper Egypt for the black. You see, with the changes -- when there came the uprisings in the Atlantean land, and the sojourning southward -- with the turning of the axis -- the white and yellow races came into that portion of Egypt, India, Persia and Arabia.



posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 07:04 PM
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Wow. Talk about a huge gulf between title and content. Might wanna source your excepts.

Mayan culture is related to Mongol culture, huh? Ugh. Where do these people get this stuff.



posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Wow. Talk about a huge gulf between title and content. Might wanna source your excepts.

Mayan culture is related to Mongol culture, huh? Ugh. Where do these people get this stuff.


Watch this video it mentions that they are related and of the same genetic racial stock
www.wonder-okinawa.jp...



posted on Sep, 27 2008 @ 11:30 PM
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Yea and the native americans and eskimos are 20,000 y/o frenchmen.



posted on Sep, 28 2008 @ 09:27 AM
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Ah Hollywood didn't you post a similar thread like this a month or so ago which essentially says the same thing?

Why not add to the existing thread instead of creating another one?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh and you might want to read up on archaeology.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by Hollywood11
At the time of Lemuria there was an extensive network of underground tunnels used by people worldwide to travel the world very quickly. However, it was the downfall of Lemuria. In 10,500 BC there was a huge War between Atlantis and Lemuria taking place. The final battle took place near Mauii, and the are of the famous Maui moon craters was where the Lemurians retreated underground. The Atlanteans sealed them in, in the inner earth. The famous Craters in the Iao valley are remants of the battle









Exsqueeze me but isnt Halakeala kinda a thing called a VOLCANO.
And one of many in a known chain of volcanos called the hawaiian
islands.,
Give me a break.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 03:30 AM
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Oh, I don't need to watch a video to understand the genetics issue. The closest genetic relatives to the Native American ethnotype are southern Siberians - where, exactly in southern Siberia is a bit tricky, but most sources I've read point towards the Baikal region, with an occasional mention of the Altai.

However, the Maya and the Mongols are separated by at least 12,000 years of genetic drift in two different directions. Also, culture is not genetic.

Mongol culture is pastoralist. You move your herds - depending on region this could be cattle, camels, sheep, or horses - from one pasture to the next, and more or less live off their milk, blood, flesh, and hide, with occasional additions from cereals, nuts, and fruits. For a large part of history, steppe cultures - including the Mongols - had a strong culture of land piracy as well, following trade routes as certainly as they followed their herds. The Mongols had no written language until Temujin commissioned an altered form of Tibetan script. Mongol religion relied strongly on shamanic worship of the sky, Tengri, though it was readily syncretized.

Maya culture was definitely agricultural, centered on maize, supplemented with beans and squash. These, along with tomatoes, peppers, and other assorted snack items, were grown in small plots called a milpa. They had no domesticated animals besides the dog, and did not appear to travel much. They were sedentary and, as I'm sure you're aware created many, many public works and monuments from stone. They had a written language and the concept of zero (you can't get every woo-woo's favorite, the Long Count Calender, without involving Zero). Their religion largely centered on maize, though philosophy extended the maize life cycle to human concepts, as well.

Frankly I believe you would be hard-pressed to find two cultures less alike.

Once again we have a misinformed fellow clutching at utterly random straws in order to defend his own personal re-imagining of Edgar Cayce and Robert E. Howards' re-imaginings of Plato's imaginary island.

You've gotta prove there was an Atlantis, before you start trying to use Atlantis to prove all this other stuff.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 04:30 PM
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This is very well documented. Do your homework


"In the last decade scientists from several research groups had tested the mitochondrial DNA of over 2000 American Indians from about a hundred tribes scattered over the length of the Americas. It soon became apparent to me that about 99% of their female lineages were brought into the Americas in excess of 12,000 years ago. Almost all of these lineages are most closely related to those of people in Asia, particularly in southern Siberia near Mongolia. Several tribes in Mesoamerica (which included Aztecs and Mayans) had been tested and all but a couple of individuals out of about 500 had mitochondrial DNA of Asian origin. The small fraction of Native American lineages that were not from Asia appeared to originate in Europe, most likely Spain. DNA studies also showed that the female ancestors of the Polynesians came from South East Asia and not the Americas. Y-chromosome studies, which trace male migrations, strongly support the mitochondrial work, except that the European influence is higher (about 10% in the Americas).

trialsofascension.net...



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 04:44 PM
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How would you feel to find out that the Irish and the Bangladeshi are the same people?

(okay, so they only are about 40% so. Obviously the Irish were colonized by more than one grouping.)

The "caucasians you are talking about OP are not caucasians. They are caucasoid.


Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Wow. Talk about a huge gulf between title and content. Might wanna source your excepts.

Mayan culture is related to Mongol culture, huh? Ugh. Where do these people get this stuff.


[edit on 2009/2/4 by Aeons]



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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Yes, some of the founding groups are the same. But if the Mayans are agricultural, and the Mongols are pastoral.....how do you think that the people in the Americas GOT there?

They developed agriculture. Obviously, at some point that culture was pastoral, and wandered a very long range.

Not all the groupings that moved into the Americas were necessarily of the same group as the Mongols. SOME of them come from that line, but not all of them.


Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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The predessor to the Asians that moved out of Siberia to NA were also the ancestors to those that stayed (obviously). The cultures probably developed their agricultural and Pasturists traits after that time.

Before the split they were probably nomadic hunter-gatherers.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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Sure, but those are my ancestors too. And I'm white. (mtDNA C).

Looks don't necessarily translate into racial traits, and to presume so is convenenient but not accurate.



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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Many people say that the Mayan culture was related to today’s Mexicans. Actually, it had nothing at all to do with the Mexicans, who are only a mixed race of the Spaniards and the indigenous people. The Mayan culture, on the other hand, belonged to the previous civilization’s period in history.


ok here we go

the mayans are not those same indigenous people?

then where did they come from?



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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The Title of this thread of yours is "Modern research in migrations and genetics confirming Pre-historic civilizations".

Now you tell me - where are the scientific papers on migration, genetic survey results proving your claim?? care to give us links than to some pseudo-history/archaeology sites?



posted on Feb, 4 2009 @ 11:50 PM
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What proof do you have that Lemuria or Mu or whatever lost continent did exist? Are there records from ocean floor mapping surveys?

who told the folks at hiddenmysteries.org whom you have quoted as saying
"the seven pyramids are magnetically aligned and connected by tunnels"

EVIDENCE !! Dude!! Evidence!!



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Howdy Coredrill

I think you'll find that you have a better chance of finding out that your grandfather was Al Capone* than getting actual evidence from Hollywood.

*Perhaps for you it would make more sense to say Veerappan.

[edit on 5/2/09 by Hanslune]



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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I always enjoy your posts Hollywood411.

Not just because I too am a member of the A.R.E. but because you are very informative in ways that highlight manners that many who are not may not be aware of, especially concerning awareness's involved in the Cayce material.

Good Job, I always look forward to studying your posts as well as encountering those who are unaware of this information and how they respond to what you are presenting, once informed...


Grock



posted on Feb, 5 2009 @ 01:03 AM
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Well Mr. Grock perhaps YOU'D like to explain all this unevidence stuff Hollywood keeps posting?

He is certainly unable to. Of the long mishmash of stuff he throws in would you care to point out the three you find the most compelling and explain why they are true?



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