Originally posted by StargateSG7
Therefore I must change my tune....and agree with Mr. Wingo
in terms of leaving him alone and WAITING for the results
of his efforts.

Hmmm okay I will buy that...

I AM WATCHING YOU ALL !!!!!!!!! I AM THE MASTER OF THIS UNIVERSE!!!

You are not the only one watching this thread And I just received permission to quote a few things on condition of anonymity

I need to fill a contract but when I get back I will sort through the mail and pull out some key points and maybe we will make some real sense of all this

P.S. Anybody got a buck for some McDonalds' coffee?

I'll buy, but at least lets get some REAL coffee

Originally posted by rocksarerocks
Once again not addressing the real topic and posting a picture that has nothing to do with the thread.

Actually it had a LOT to do with this thread...

It was a CLEAR message to people engaging Trolls in conversation that add only more confusion and distraction to the thread. I am SURE the right people get the message

Carry on Zorgon. As usual nothing will come of this thread and it will fall by the wayside like all the other moon base and mining threads you start.

How do you figure nothing will come of it? Seems to me its one of the best threads on here right now...

I seem to be the only one willing to stand up to you and John Lear,

That's because your the ONLY one who doesn't 'get it' yet and since John has not been here a long time, I don't see how that is relevant.

So now I will heed my own sign and bid you farewell... I have work to do

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there some NASA person who was responsible for some photos, five sets total, who was told to destroy them, but only destroyed four sets and kept the fifth set because he had a conscience.

Seems to me this might be the stash. I don't know if this has anything to do with that, but I've got a head for the weird crap in life and my little TTY bell went ding-a-ling as I read this thread.

Obsrvr

In defence of Zorgon, I doubt he is hoaxing but I do have some reservations
regarding the sources of the information posted on ATS.

1) Who actually said the Tape machines were found in a chicken coop?

2) Who actually said the tapes were from the Lunar Orbiter?

3) Who originally said the tapes were just left laying around
in an abandoned McDonalds?

Those are basic questions I wouldn't mind having answered
by someone who really is "In The Know"!

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I will tell you a little secret though, the original video feeds
from 1967 to 1973 COULD STILL be recovered if the Airforce
predecessor to Space Command still has the kinescopes
(i.e. 16mm or 35mm films taken right off a television screen at 30 fps)
which were beamed down during all missions.

There would be canisters of 16mm, 22mm or 35mm film
somewhere probably stored at Dryden, Wright Patterson
or in Hawaii that may contain original images from
missions that were obtained simply by pointing a
film camera at a monitor station.

This was a technique pioneered by Hollywood
and was a popular way to save live TV programs
in the 1950 and 60's.

We should do some further digging
for such archival material....

Actually I DO have some more questions....
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QUOTE FROM STEVE near beginning of thread describing photos:

"Behind the counter of an abandoned McDonalds lie 48,000 lbs of 70mm
tape the only copy of extremely high-resolution images of the moon."
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The Ampex FR-900 have reel flanges that as far as I KNOW will NOT accept
a reel that's greater than the 2 inches wide tape width plus reel guard width
so the tape that steve is talking about can't be MAGNETIC TAPE but rather
he's possibly talking about 70 mm FILM which would need a Telecine to
transfer rather than a 2" reel-to-reel VTR like the Ampex FR-900's!

So why is Steve talking about 70mm reels when that equals 2.7559 inches
which the FR-900's won't take because of the limited reel flange room
of only 2.0 inches plus a bit extra for the flange....?

and 48,000 lbs? Those reels which are similar to
Quantegy 499 Gold 14 inch diameter, 2" reel 5000 foot mastering tape
which are 23 pounds when full so there should be 2086 tapes (47,978 lbs)
when I seem to count only about 700 tapes (about 16,000 lbs)
in the photos.

So where are the other 1300+ 2" reel-to-reel VTR tapes
that should be there in the abandoned McDonalds.
(i.e. a missing 31,878 lbs of 2" reel-to-reel VTR tape)
Where are They Now?

Anybody ELSE find these stats weird or unlikely?

The above Black and White photos of reel-to-reel tape of ths Apollo
landing missions look like 14 inch diameter 1 inch wide mag tapes which
are MUCH different than the ones displayed in the McDonald's photos.

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Again what does steve mean by 70mm -- is he talking about FILM
canisters....or actual Magnetic tape. Anyways my estimated weight
calculations still means that we're not seeing the other 1300+ 2" tapes
that SHOULD BE THERE!

This is getting to be interesting.....

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If it's FILM that needs to be transferred - I can DEFINITELY do that!
Since I've done MILLIONS OF FEET of the stuff!!!!

My optical scanning system ALSO works with 8mm to 16mm to
22mm to 35mm to 70mm to large-scale astrographic films...
POSITIVE PRINT ONLY CURRENTLY but I will be expanding into
NEGATIVES into the near future as I tweak my imaging algorithms.