Originally posted by kinda kurious
Whoa. Back up the truck.
Wasn't it explained early on that the "Original" film was scanned aboard the Lunar Orbiters?
And that the Lunar Orbiters were sacrificed and crashed into the moon?

Yup that about covers it. To get the originals would require a trip to the moon and sift through forty years of Moon Dust for the scrap



Thanks for paying attention

Will be out of town till the 15th ... so will update this when I get back...

And with any luck the Oct 14th scam will be over and we can get back to 'normal' around here

Originally posted by StargateSG7
If somebody has ANY IDEA of where the ORIGINAL FILM is
I'll take care of the rest...

Weell, lessee here *cracks knuckles*

I have a small group that possess the capability of putting a modest form of conveyance to the Moon on the drawing board...

And if anyone wishes to ante up 30-40M, we could have ourselves an interesting field trip in about two years time!

It used to be 30M, but I am factoring in overruns with the economic meltdown.

So Zorgon, why do you think it will be over on the 14th? Or are we talking about the same thing here? I think mine was Sept 23rd to Oct 14th, according to the prophet I ran into at a Jack In The Box. He got it all wrong though, but that is a different story.

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[edit on 8-10-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]

Oops sorry! You'r right. I was for some reason thinking of the Apollo missions
instead of Lunar Orbiter satellite-style of craft going to the moon.

Anyways, the resolution of the 70mm film images was only 2 meters
and 20 metres so the quality would have basically sucked compared
to what we have today at 15 cm, 30 cm and 1 metre resolutions.

Even with the lack of atmosphere, the basic glass/quartz optics at the time
would have been problematic since there wuld have been lens distortion,
achromatic aberations, lens breathing (if they're zoom lenses and not
fixed focus) and other issues that are pretty much gone from modern
CNC-machined lenses and accesories with accuracies of 1/100,000th
of an inch.

Oh well there goes my original idea....I guess we'll have to
keep waiting for the video tape transfers to be made public!

Was this proven to be phony?

I had been following along but lost track, now reading through the posts I am confused.

Thanks.

Regarding this quote....

"But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible."

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MY ANSWER --- Absolute Rubbish !!!!

Who needs old analogue video tape recorders when an optical-transfer
system using Video waveform detection & reconstruction is here and now!
...and would be of FAR HIGHER quality...!!!

The tapes on an these transfers are PROBABLY NTSC video format
at 29.97 frames per second (or an older Black&White format) which
means the magnetic particle format laid out on the tape is in a specific
configuration that indicates where and when a video line and video frame
starts and stops (i.e. Horizontal Blanking Interval). This would allow
a video camera attached to an optical microscope than can pan & scan
across the tape at say one to 10 millimetres per second could
autostitch the multiple tiny photos of a video frame as represented
by the magnetic particles printed on the tape into a large bitmap
which is then OCR'ed to detect individual video lines and frames
and then reconstructed into an uncompressed
RGB frame containing the original imagery.

It's not that hard and I already have the software to do the OCR
and the scope and bitmap auto-stitcher...YES it's a bit slow at a few
millimetres a second BUT with 10 or 20 of the machines I could do the
job in a few weeks at a MUCH HIGHER quality because I can filter
out tape noise and physically not have to run a damaging video head
at 600 to 1800 RPM across flaky and old oxide tape.

So even IF the centre closes and the older video transfer machine
goes KAPUT we can STILL transfer OLD films and VIDEO no matter
the format becuase we DO NOT need a complex mechanical VTR
when we can use the power of LIGHT and computer DSP to do
the job BETTER and FASTER!

First off I'm new on ATS so been playing catch up on some of these topics that interest me. No I have not read every single post on this thread.

Secondly I used to be a private pilot and know a little about weight and flight. I also drove the big semi trailer rigs (80,000 pounds gross)
48,000 pounds of film? That is 24 tons. How did all of that extra weight come into play for the launch, and even more important, how did that extra weight play into recovery, return, of the capsule with the astronauts and 24 tons of film?
Developing film in space? How? Where did they have room? How is the weight and storage figured into all of this? What about the added weight of the processing equipment?

I don't buy into any of this. That Mcdonalds youtube video is gone now. Hmm...maybe the illuminati raided it?

I DO believe that:
1 Yes, NASA, is releasing low quality images and tampering with those.
2 NASA is keeping the high quality Moon and Mars images and not releasing them to the public domain.
I DO believe that we are not alone. Still looking for more evidence...

Originally posted by StargateSG7
Regarding this quote....

I tend to agree. I think the tapes are there. I think the equipment is there. I think the "missing tapes found", "classified" hype is just that. Sensationalism.