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Weird Shadows on Mars!!! What Are They??

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posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 04:23 PM
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If it were Oil nasa would not be begging for funding. If it were oil and they even so much as suspected it was gushing up there, they would have a manned mission heading that way and scientists trying to work out the best way to get it here.




posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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This person did an excellent job to show the locations of the stains found so far.
Palermo's Martian Anomalies • A Study of MOC Stain Images
Here is an active, clickable map of the stain areas.
Red: Stain Images
Yellow: Light stain images
Green: No stains
palermoproject.com...

Explanation is here: palermoproject.com...

PDF: palermoproject.com...

I had originally sent this to Zorgon with the mistaken explaination that NASA claimed these to be water stains.
But NASA claims these streaks or stains to be dust slides.

I also think these are "water stains".
If you check the darker and more recent stains, you'll see they start from a pin-point and spread out into a wider path and then sometimes suddenly stop.
The unconventional theory is that the water freezes very fast and can't flow anymore because the underground pressure is less than above ground.
The darker stains are the most recent and the lighter ones are older and getting covered with dust.
The photo included below shows the same area being photographed 150 days apart.




posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by zorgon
What's the blue stuff in those craters?
I don't know, I only know that this image was made with images M04-03241 and M04-03242, corresponding to the red and blue channels, from Mars Global Surveyor.

 

About those "shadows", I think you have photos of four different things.

Slope streaks.


The "geysers", that I am not sure if are really geyser like.


Wind blown dust


Dust devil trails


 

I agree with Internos about the slope streaks, they look like something flowed down hill, being diverted by anything higher than the surrounding ground.

I also agree (and I think that this is what most scientist think) that they were made in different occasions, and the "age" of the streaks is what makes them look less noticeable.

One thing that is not noticeable in your photos is that those slope streak really carve their way down hill. I will try to find an example of that.

PS: the filename of your Gusev images is "NASA_gusev_sm.jpg", shoudn't it be "ESA_gusev_sm.jpg"?
Other idea:

Could all this be VEGETATION???

On first pic it's clearly a shadow under the shape, its own shadow. So that's off the ground.

The "geysers" could be "trees"./ bushes, depending on size. I think I recall another photo where it looks more like a geyser but, not sure, we'd have to see it in footage, moving, to really get a better idea.


All the rest reminds me of sea-style vegetation, like, maxi sea-weeds, sea plants. NOW STOP! I KNOW there's NO sea THERE , well not where we look and not in the known Earth sea/oceans concepts.

YET there could have been water, sea, ocean BEFORE, right?


Also think of the funny rocks and fossils found: don't they remind you of sea-fossils etc? Polished for some, covered in tangled layers of stuck old sea-style stones+perhaps remnants of shells etc, like we see on old stones, rocks and shells at the sea-side, especially near rock-areas.

RE: the Mars "Ruins" & Fossils threads.

SAND as the ground looks like where these fossils rocks and shapes were found.

=Plenty elements there to allow me to submit the possibility.


NOW: Why would SEA-VEGETATION GROW NOW THERE, WITHOUT WATER?
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1) As we see on a few Mars vids on You Tube for example, the planet seems to be waking-up (ice on South Pole? I think, + many evidence of water).
Therefore there could be enough moisture to revive old seeds.

2) Have you ever observed DUNE-plants? Don't they look like Sea-plants that have adapted to air instead of water?


I don't know which button to use to post pics but if some wish to post any to illustrate this possibility, be welcome to do so.

Mag for my signature.

Please if my possibility doesn't seem to fit, partially or totally, i appreciate polite honesty, all views welcome by me. I'm no scientist but I'm very observant.

Have a nice time it's 18 to 11 at night here in the UK and one hour more in France. TC!



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:01 PM
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another great find!

It appears to me to be flow patterns instead of shadows. Some dark material has erupted and begun to flow. Possibly motivated by gravity, wind or water.

In the first photo, it looks as the eruption occured in one spot, then after a period of time erupted again close by. The first eruption of black material was partially covered by the lighter colored sand.

On another photo I see flow patterns going in two different directions. This presents the idea of wind or gravity.

Any way you slice it, it's another great find.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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well, this may be a far stretch, but there is a book/youtube.vid called"Alliance of Humanity" they speak of alien creatures besides the greys called "the unseen". This Alien type can not survive on earth's land so instead they hide in large body's of water and underground. The book goes on to say these type are here to control our goverment in order to have access to our agriculture. They supposively are set up underground in planets surrounding us (MARS). The most interesting thing that this book describes is the alien creature itself. They are said to be spiritual beings who communicate with out words. SO BACK TO THE PICTURE- so just seeing that spiritual looking being is pretty thought provoking for sure...especially the third picture, where he appears to be going underground. im anxious to know what you (marshall) think about those pictures and that book.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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well, this may be a far stretch, but there is a book/youtube.vid called"Alliance of Humanity" they speak of alien creatures besides the greys called "the unseen". This Alien type can not survive on earth's land so instead they hide in large body's of water and underground. The book goes on to say these type are here to control our goverment in order to have access to our agriculture. They supposively are set up underground in planets surrounding us (MARS). The most interesting thing that this book describes is the alien creature itself. They are said to be spiritual beings who communicate with out words. SO BACK TO THE PICTURE- so just seeing that spiritual looking being is pretty thought provoking for sure...especially the third picture, where he appears to be going underground. im anxious to know what you (marshall) think about those pictures and that book.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Here is one in color





New Geysers in M11 01809
www.msss.com...



=Old sea-bed?

The black-shapes would be "new" inhabitants?(like algua(=sea-weed), parasites, plants, animal form...)

...possibly come with an outburst of gas or fluid or...?, first? (like some plants do on earth, notably in the sea/oceans, or some mushrooms in forests)
Some of they shapes (as some I've just re-watched on this super thread) look too static to me to be just "geysers".

Also those round massive shapes are seen elsewhere like on pics where other ppl call them "roads" but they look like giant worms to me...buried?

Giant worms apart it does well remind me of ancient sea-bed ...the fossils, the sand...but that's thinking like an earthing, yet, let's not forget about Mars history and a big cataclysm occurred.

Cataclysm--> CLIMATE CHANGE, GLOBAL WARMING, seas evaporated?

TACKLED! LOL!!!!!



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:58 PM
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To EaganThorn and U.S. Rebel:

Making in my mind a synthesis of both your posts, I get the picture of a living planet, but not in the way we have on ours. Forgive my lack of facts and knowledge, I have just landed on Mars,...ahah, lol but true, focusing!

I need a good revision of our know chemicals/ chemistry elements, I'm going to call an Senior Expert to see if he'll accept to come and talk here. He's bril and knows a lot technical about Mars. He sounds like a University professor but in a lot more cooler way. If he's not, hats off even more for him.
Anyway,

All this gives me the early impression of a combination of things, oh, just like we have here in Spring with the seeds, bulbs growth, flowers, pollen then the bees etc, combined with more sun, more heat, cycles, you name it. A big chain of elements. Looks like these "black" shapes are well part of it, in a cycle, so possibly there would be bigger things underneath...ex-hibernation or something in the sort...does it bite, no idea...

The trouble is that we don't know these elements there. They're ALIEN to us. They could well be evoluting and be all new too, or in renewal. In the waking-up, a few years or decades or...centuries? when they started awakening or waking-up, looks this way to me...what do I know, just my feelings to it.
Forgive my terms I'm not English-speaking native.

The book seems very interesting. Ancient aliens are found in legends all over the world and history. (EARTH(I mean) On "flying chariots/ palaces, with fire..."

We need indeed to keep an open mind and try to keep a global Mars planet record of the facts we've already learned, and keep our minds open to others...I only talk in impressions, feelings, possibilities that come to me.

Thanx for reading, listening to you all intelligent & caring Beings, Mag



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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HMMES

High Mass Mars Entry System.

Getting a big arsed payload up to mars, an orbital 'airframe' which has piggy backed onto it a small 'X33 alike'.

Oh they are planning to get the full mineral rights to mars alright, its just way off radar so the masses don't wonder just how they got stuff there... Stuff like oil exploration teams and specialised vehicles to roll across the surface.

[edit on 31-8-2008 by Dan Tanna]



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 07:00 PM
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i know EXACTLY what this is! this is proof that there's more to our universe and solar system than NASA & our government officially say there is!



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Dan Tanna
Oh they are planning to get the full mineral rights to mars alright, its just way off radar so the masses don't wonder just how they got stuff there...


Guy Cramer (Hyperstealth Inc with projects for HAARP), Dr Joe Resnick ( NAT2DTC (National Anti-Terrorism Technology Development and Training Center) long time NASA contractor and holder of 23 top secret patents) and Lt. Col. Timothy R. O'Neill. PhD already have secured all the mineral rights to the Moon and Mars with the rights established 30 years ago in the World Court in Copenhagen

HH Schmidt owns Interlune-Intermars Initiative, a company dedicated to Lunar and Martian mining operations specifically HE3 and tied in with plasma research at Uof Wisconsin. His name is also on a USGS Mining topographical map in high detail dated 1967, two years before Apollo. We also know him as the geologist on board Apollo 17

They will sell you a plot of land, but you won't get the rights to any decent area
It is interesting to note that the NAVY (the OTHER space program) has this statement in BOLD on the Clementine Image mapper

"The Naval Research Laboratory is not affiliated in any way with any organization selling lunar property or acreage on the moon. "

www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil...

So while all the sheeple hide in forums
, the real world is getting sold out from under them... you will have to leave the solar system for a new frontier



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posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 07:13 PM
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indeed.

They have to fund all those non-terrestrial naval officers some how.

No wonder GM is going to go to jail for decades.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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One thing made me laugh on You Tube. Last week I viewed a lot of Mars vids, + others related to Space.
One said, "TOXINS were found in the Mars ground." (was it in the South Pole area...I'm not sure, I think it was the designated location of the topic)--> the CONCLUSION was, that "NO ALIEN (= Martian, in THEIR views) could live there, or survive, BECAUSE, of these "toxins", AS KNOWN AS TOXINS"... on Earth!

I just laughed.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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Is the entire planet covered in these volcanic eruptions or are they in just certain areas?



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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As I've been most totally ignored by the "owner" of this thread, & most others, I will just leave it. Despite I have invited a very important person onto it, well I hope you won't ignore him if he decides that this forum is OK... and another friend too.
After all I don't want my ideas to get copied in any commercial way...or whatever. I was chuffed with this board so I do not withdraw from it. But NO SHADOWS!!!M.
Well its up to you owner... you seem alright to me but I seriously don't have time to waste, I did for one year & a half on another topic and I'm jaws-dropped...perhaps you know which one I mean... if not you can always u2u me...Cheers2U! (I do not bite...despite what you MUST have heard about me! and I KNOW you have)

Yet I see that the starter of this thread, = OP, has always 'more important persons' to reply to, even if it means severe opponents.
No way I am interfering in the 'war', so, if you don't mind, given that I am not welcome here at all, it's good bye & good riddance from me. Plenty things to do and I've said enough. Perhaps too much...I get that VERY bad feeling, I do NOT forget, you see, you MUST see what I mean, yes.

Too bad for the wolves that bark with the wolves...you'd better check the background of some of them I say... just a thought, Google3@aAH!

Ah ah. oh & I forget the 'rollin'on the floor and the lols lols lols'...with awe or gasp it would be, my real friends know how to contact me, see you People!

MAG

Glory To MARS AND SPACE, it gives me a lot of peace. It seems that we Earthlings are the only species to be so EVIL... but why....not me but look at how some CHILDREN DIE OF HUNGER AND ARE BEING TREATED...but for VOICING THIS ON ANOTHER "FORUM"(NOT PUBLIC!) I GET SILENCED, aH, HYPOCRISY, ...isn't it, Bjr=Abbreviation for "Bonjour"!!!BJR=BONJOUR!

...IN FRENCH THAT IS... Oui! AAahhH...!

RESPECT4SPACE!
&4Kids!...Oui!!!!!
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Yes! =Magali, = Yes! 2+2=4, we in MY view! Yes! BonJouR!



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by MarsFanMag
I just laughed.


Yup that was a joke The Toxins were perchlorates... and we have them all over the planet wherever we made and tested weapons, rocket fuel, fireworks ets...

And last time I checked there is still life as we know it on Earth. I guess they were hasty about anouncing we can grow asparagus like in our garden at home




posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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The very first photo shows two different events.
The lighter colored " shadow" is a different event that has been covered by dust or snow.
The darker deposit is more recent.
Some kind of geothermal event?
Prevailing winds blow deposits along specific paths?
Keep thinking and don't give up the schtick.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by NephraTari
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If it were Oil nasa would not be begging for funding. If it were oil and they even so much as suspected it was gushing up there, they would have a manned mission heading that way and scientists trying to work out the best way to get it here.


Did I miss something? When did Nasa built a man base on Mars?

Let's call it black water. But, it does look kind of like oil.



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:58 PM
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i thing are living beings



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
But these happen every spring, which is why there are so many pictures available.


I guess NASA had no control over where the rovers landed?

Or maybe NASA just didn't have any idea that there were any such eruptions such as these to be interested in gathering data from them with the Mars Rovers?

Seems to me that the rovers would have been deployed to a region like this that has such activities. How many pictures of dust devils or geyser eruptions have we seen sent back from the surface of Mars?

Or maybe NASA just didn't want Average Joe to say, "Hey, check that out! That's cool. I want to know more about Mars!"



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