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Originally posted by beefeater
reply to post by Ownification
You are still falling for propaganda.
"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians
The MP who made that revelation about "Al-Qaida" died a few days after publication.
Al-Qaida or mujahideen after the russian conflict where then put on the pay roll of a cia company MPRI, they are paid assasins who work to the CIA's agenda. They fought in Serbia. They are a tool for the US to achieve its long term goals.
Problem, reaction, solution, im afraid
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by beefeater
This is correct Beefeater, however it does not apply to Alqaeda in Iraq or now, Afghanistan. We hope the CIA isn't directing them there. I believe somewhere in here the Op is attempting to construct an argument that the US is a terrorist organization, but due to the complete lack of any coherent logical argument it is impossible to have a discussion. I can get my head around the fact that killing innocents, whoever may be doing the bombing is unacceptable. It sickens me the lackidasical way so many in the US can say "Let's Nuke 'EM!" This however is not the argument. One last point, you say there is ALWAYS a "target" and then use the example of a US convoy in the market. You sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry, you really don't . It is admirable to explore the ideas of what is terrorism, who defines it? why aren't we (USA) held accountable for similar, if not exact same crimes etc. Your argument however is beyond the pale when it comes to being ignorant of the violence, death, and abjet misery many so called "al-queda" losers project on the POPULACE in Iraq. Dear Lord, is ALJAzeera on the West's side? again, as per my several previous posts, go to BBC.com
or Humanrightswatch.org - or AlJazeera themselves! These people document US crimes like none other but they also document Al quedas! Crimes! Like Killing Innocent Civilians! This must be for a highschool paper.
One last point, you say there is ALWAYS a "target" and then use the example of a US convoy in the market. You sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry, you really don't .
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by JimBeam
Ok, just because I have the time, lets do this: Mossad: Yes, I know what they do. What does that have to do with the OP's thread? CIA - yes I know what they do - have you actually read any of my posts? I have stated, I think four times now, yes, CIA/DOD created the mess we are in. What does this have to do with people killing other people walking to buy some onions? Keep drinking your Beam and I pray to God you don't have someone you love die from one of these bastards one day...BORE BORE BORE- keep on keepin' on in your tiny itsy bitsy world.
Originally posted by nastalgik
Al Qaeda are actually not that bad. And Borat is the ambassador for Kazakhstan. I don't know if your blind or just stupid but Al-Qaeda is a terrorist organization. They do kill innocents and you have to be blind not to see it. I'm sorry but I don't buy into the whole goverment is brainwashing us bull#.
[edit on 30-8-2008 by nastalgik]