Time travellers from the future 'could be here in weeks'., page 6

reply to post by computerwiz32

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Sorry computerwiz,
I did a 'search' for time travel/CERN, checked tags etc nothing came up relating to the Telegraph article. So 'bingo', I certainly thought it worth further discussion. I gave ya 'star'.
H

reply to post by bloodcircle

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It could very be that, with the pool cue paradox, if there is ever any movement that would ever cause the wormhole-exiting pool cue to prevent itself from entering, that they would both simply disappear.

In other words, perhaps they both simply disappear if the ball would ever prevent itself from entering the wormhole in the future.. (Not necessarily whether or not it does so in the present while hitting the ball and, thus, preventing the time-traveling ball from ever existing.) In other words the simple probability that the ball will, in the future, hit itself and prevent it from entering altogether creates a whole other timeline in which the ball CAN'T exist.. Except still on the pool table as if it never even left.

PERHAPS it would even be impossible to hit the pool cue into the wormhole at all. Because if the ball inevitably disappears by entering the wormhole, exiting, and knocking itself off-coarse as it was entering the wormhole, then that simple inevitability will prevent the time-space continuum from being able to organise that information and know what to do with it..

Thereby it would prevent you from hitting the ball at all.. Or perhaps it WOULD let you hit the ball towards the wormhole, but at the exact point your pool stick hits the cue, the cue then disappears. It is not only the organisation of matter and energy that can feasibly create alternate timelines, but also the inevitability of human choices and decisions. If you choose not to hit the pool cue, nothing will happen.. But if you do, the inevitability that the ball would prevent itself from existing might make the information already be known before it even happens (something like non-locality)..

And that could possibly make the pool cue disappear at the exact instant you DECIDE to hit the ball with the pool stick.
Not necessarily make it disappear at any point after that (whether it be before, during, or after its travel through the wormhole and going back in time).

-ChriS


[edit on 23-8-2008 by BlasteR]

reply to post by mwood

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I've often thought that too. But I was watching a PBS show on a man who thinks he's all but created a time machine. Now, he doesn't claim that he would be able to send himslef or others through this machine, but he can send photons and what not. He postulated that he would essentially be able to communicate with him self by using photons as a form of morse code. He's a bonafide physicist, not some loner guy in a basement.

Anyhoo, he was saying, which I'll admit I don't quite grasp, that once the machine is created it's only from that point on we will know if it really works. According to him, you would not be able to go back in time any further than when the machine was created. I'm sure that's the idea these scientist are working with also.

this is definitely an extremely interesting idea about CERN that I never thought about. Isn't it also being used to find the "god particle"?


[edit on 23-8-2008 by nunya13]

reply to post by OldMedic

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“Maybe” you are right,
You “Might” be wrong,
But “Could” you be more specific when referring to the gullible and those who prey upon them?

You call it ‘Weasel words’, but some scientists call it theorizing!
They theorize first, then put the theory into practice, sometimes it works exactly how they thought it would, other times, it is back to the drawing board.

H
Thanks for your contribution btw.

reply to post by Havalon

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Interesting..
Here Ori is an Isreali Physicist who has conceptualized travelling back into time via closed timelike curves..

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Originally posted by nunya13

I've often thought that too. But I was watching a PBS show on a man who thinks he's all but created a time machine. Now, he doesn't claim that he would be able to send himslef or others through this machine, but he can send photons and what not.

That is what "Project Looking Glass" is at Los Alamos National Labs
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