Russian tanks 'rolling into Georgian breakaway', page 2
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reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 09:32 AM by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by northwolf


How can you be sure that those are facts and not propaganda war? In Balkans news of ethnic cleansing took weeks/months/years to react.
Just to remind you, USSR announced that Finland shelled its forces in 1939, when they shelled them self their own troops. It is Russia now, but i am not that sure about change in methods.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 09:50 AM by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by northwolf


Good on the Russians, the Georgians are nothing more than a US pawn in the game to encircle Russia. The Russians have every right to push the NATO away from its borders when it was promised peace in the late eighties only to find the US hell bent on stripping it of its near abroad.



reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 10:05 AM by donhuangenaro
reply to post by djerwulfe


yeah, I'm not from Venezuela, but if I were I would be offended by this map...

Venezuela is not US ally...






reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 10:22 AM by Bugman82
Here is an interpretation of events from someone who has been following this conflict for quite some time. I will make it very brief.

There is basically an area between Russia and Georgia that these 2 countries have agreed to disagree on. This region is called Ossetia. I don't know how to really describe it but it's kind of like a separatist movement towards Russia from Georgia. Around 90% of the population in this area has Russian citizenship and most likely pro-Russian.

Conflict has ensued because Georgia in the last couple days has began invading this region to reclaim it as its own. Since Russia has the predominant support of the region and has interests here they are supporting this breakaway region's pushback of Georgian forces. Here is a video (www.liveleak.com...) that was posted in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com... This is not showing a fight between Russian and Georgian forces in reality. This is fighting between peacekeeping forces in the region and Georgian forces. Russia is simply moving to support the peacekeeping forces already in place.

Lots of propaganda is being thrown around on both sides:
-Genocide by Georgian forces (of course a possibility as they are being forced out of the region)
-Russia attacking Georgia territory with aircraft (also possible as a way to hinder reinforcements)
-Russian planes being shot down (another possibility)

PLEASE don't pay attention to the propaganda.

What do I think is happening? At most I think Russia may be hitting Georgian reinforcements to the main areas of conflict and sending support troops to aid the breakaway region.

Who is at fault? In all reality it kind of points to Georgia for stirring the pot. This region has seen some conflict as of late but this major push by Georgian forces into a predominately pro-Russian area is a bold move.

What do I think will come of this? Nothing long lasting. I think both sides will agree to a ceasefire and things will continue as they have been in the last couple of years.


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:05 AM by northwolf
reply to post by buddhasystem


You may be correct.

Or they might be using cluster mines to hinder the Russian support convoy heading to the capital...?


reply posted on 8-8-2008 @ 11:08 AM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by northwolf
reply to post by buddhasystem


You may be correct.

Or they might be using cluster mines to hinder the Russian support convoy heading to the capital...?


As I can see on Russian news sites, Tskhinval is largely destroyed. Looks to me Georgians did it. Women and children largely evacuated to N.Ossetia before that happened, thank God.

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