reply to post by Hanslune
If you needed to create a volkswagon or a craft like hamels you would have a much easier time createing the Hamel craft,because the parts are few and
simple to manufacture,the materials are all easily obtained,in fact you could have built one in egyptian times if you knew how to build it,the
materials were all there,you wouldnt have a chance at building a volkswagon though,not a chance.
For all we know this was a critical part of a craft that was being reproduced or built,or maybe part of one that simply crashed,or may have even been
I see your point and perspective,you require that i produce a working Hamel craft that has been altered to accept the transmission or tri-lobed
bowl,right?I understand but can not do that.
This doesnt mean that all discussion on the ideas must stop because you cannot have your empirical proof.
Until you can show me a picture of someone takeing a nut out of that "bowl"I dont believe it is a bowl.In fact ,what was found inside this special
bowl??Or beside it??If is was ceremonial it would be depicted in one place or another,so i doubt it is that.
And really it looks more like an impeller than it does a bowl,and to add to that i wasnt looking for either an impeller or a bowl when i found the
Impeller,i was traceing hamels egyptian data path and found the fellow who had spaceman connections ,and then found the artifacts buried with or
associated indirectly with or to him and as we all obviously know the tri-lobed bowl or impeller stands out absolutely as being out of place,this is
how i first noticed it,and because the catalyst of my search was a Canadian named Hamel who had developed anti-grav technology based on knowledge the
egyptians had,it was a natural path to where we are right now,and it was very easy to see where the impeller fit in to hamels craft,and to me this
just shows that hamels tech or a similar version was being used back then and I just went to the internet for spaceman in egyptian history and wha-la
there it was,the ionic impeller,in perfect form.
Your bowl story sounds a little weak to me.
if you are implying that someone like hamel or myself or Mr.or Mrs.Everyman or Everywoman couldnt discover things as important of significant as
Egyptologists find you are sadly mistaken,and yes David hamel will show you how to read egyptian heiroglyphs in an easy to understand way.So I am
afraid to say that i put much less faith in Egyptologists than I do in Everyone else out there,I have watched six year old savant children do
incredible things on TV many times,and i have researched a Canadian man who brought the world an incredible opportunity to embrace an old but new
technology,much like the savant children.I am sorry but i prefer to see the world as the savants do not as regular people do,you might be restricted
by an inability to mentally image your thoughts and as a result your rely mainly on empirical evidence to support your reality--I dont choose to
function that way,empirical evidence is a by=product to me not a building block..
A savant will take a regular thinker in huge leaps and bounds that disorientate them and confuse them,a regular person cannot absorb and assimilate
the volume of data that is thrown at them without relying on mental visualisation.
Savants cannot wait around to explain details,they are accurate and confident and intuative by nature,you cannot waste time trying to feel out every
single step of your way with them,because they are takeing surefooted leaps and bounds from mountain top to mountain top,you need to just follow and
keep your eyes and ears open and remember to visualise.
And dont waste time trying to compare intellects with savants,it makes no sense to them,its like picking on someone to ask them to think down to you
if you are in a dynamic favouring their skill or area.These are special thinkers who far eclipse normal peoples skills and abilitys.And for the record
i personally dont care how that makes regular people feel,hopefully defensive so they take a look at themselves.
And for goodness sakes NO ONE LIKED the little kid who kept spouting off"why dont you proooovvvve it!!!You have to Prooooove it!!"no one liked the
little contrarian when we were all kids and we dont usually appreciate it as adults,contrarians are people who want to learn slowly at their own pace
to make sure they dont MISS anything,they are just insecure and refuse to keep pace,hence the constant demands for PROOF and the constant stall
I am saying i think like these savants,and I understand why the need for constant provision of physical proof exists,but I am trying to show you that
it is just as important for you yourself to let go of that need as it is for me to be faced with it,however insecurity requires that your demands are
so constant and manic that you never step out of your comfort zone and risk the integration of new data.
As long as you feel in control of the dynamic by constantly controlling it through constant demands for physical proof you SLOW DOWN THE LEARNING
PROCESS,we didnt get to where we are as a species by doing things that way and we wont get far into the future by relying on it so much today,we need
visionaries to manifest our future.
Amd yes,savants use their imaginations,they visualise every thought they ever have,it is what it is,its like seeing in color when everyone else sees
in black and white.
so,no they dont think like you,and yes they will humble you in mnay areas beyond recovery,so your ego better be in check,and if you get to defensive
you will in actuality be abusive because this is how they and you think and attacking them will not empower you or dis-empower them.i guess i am
trying to make some people feel better and not get so defensive because they will NEVER see the world another way unless they surrender their current
perspective and that is nearly impossible for many people.
David hamel was one of these savants,there are MANY OF THEM,And yes,we can easily see who they are because they out think us all the time with ease
and regularity,of we spend a lifetime focusing on ONE topic we will get near a savants abilitys when we are 90 yrs old ,the ability they had at ten
yrs old,so you see it is what it is.Why not celebrate it??if someone can take you on an incredible leap of learning ,why not take it??its not like you
cant un-learn things if they seem wrong??Right??
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