The tri-lobed Egyptian bowl

Originally posted by tri-lobe-1
reply to post by reddpill

 

spinning disc was faced towards a piece of metal....my model is made of fiberglass...

I have a difference of opinion on that. I don't think it should matter as the important part here is the resonant frequency, which is then reflected. The disc is just the part which makes the 'frequency' from it turning through it's revolutions. Anything spinning, no matter the material, will produce the same Hz with the same RPM. I think the only difference is at what point does the disc become 'neutral' to it's movement and it's place in the 'circuit', which after thinking about it, might have an effect on the final resonant value.

As the disc spins centripetally, it will create a calculated implosive 'singularity' where the vortex reaches the greatest compression point, after that it will 'ground' itself and work in the opposite direction, expanding. Now if you place a reflective surface to redirect the air back towards the top or entrance of the vortex at that exact location you will also get a continuing cyclonic movement also. This is how the "crystal ion engine" basically works. But because this is about 'frequency' the question is what effect would this have on the surface and does the 'cycling of the air' have a role to play?

Something else to think about also, does the negative ions generated through this process, which will 'NETER'urally increase, have an effect on the 'unknown' metal when the frequency was correct.

The Gizamids dated to around 2400-2500bc......so the schist disc was buried for approximately 500yrs before work at the Giza plateau had started......

Carbon dating a fire place next to a campers hut doesn't prove the date the hut was made. As this topic isn't about that, that is all I'm going to say as my opinion differs entirely. See documentary below.

Khemet......very interesting....

The Pyramid Code.

Quick note

Nice to see this old thread coming to life again

Carbon dating of the gypsum mortar in the pyramids. These samples were taken from the mortar in between the stones inside and outside the pyramids and in a number of other sites. The outer stones were covered by the over layer of limestone which was stripped away in historic times. Unless you are going to claim that the AE took the pyramids apart and placed gypsum mortar in every place we can now see....

You may also wish to look at similar stone bowls made at the same time that don't look like an 'impeller', cherry picking one out of many and saying that was it function isn't a good idea.

To settle the issue all you need to do is demonstrate that this 'impeller' has some function other than a bowl. Once that done.....let us and the scientific community know about the overturning of physics.

Have you seen this website? It also talks of models, theories, etc. It has animations and drawings.

I really don't understand any of it, but thought you might find it interesting... or not.

Bessler's Wheel

ALSO, on this website it mentions that there were:

along with other strange copper objects, practically the only metal that the Egyptians then knew.

Do we know what the "other strange" objects were? Are there pictures somewhere of these objects?

Does someone have a good link to a site that tells us about Prince Sabu?

Is the Schist disk missing pieces? Since it is made from very "fragile" rock - is this a "prototype" or "model" for a mold?

It's and USO, undentified standing object

Originally posted by tri-lobe
hello to all reading. i am a newbie, please exscuse my style. i would like to share my personal experiance with the tri-lobed schist bowl. i made a scale model from fiber-glass,mounted a length of all-thread into the central boseof said disc. the other end of all-thread went into the battery powered drill. i could spin the bowl in a controlled manner. i filled the bath with water and spun the setup in the water. OMG beautiful hydrodyamic pattern-sucking in from the center,throwing out from the circumference- in engineering terms THIS IS AN IMPELLER...eg..water pump... low rpm. what is missing is the housing,no big deal,the impeller is still the smoking gun. we can make a housing to suit. i then spun said item in the lathe while burning incense to visually show me and others the fluid flow patterns. clear as crystal. sucking in from the center-throwing out from circumference. in engineering water and air are treated as a fluid. my modest work in the bathroom and backshed has shown to me that the tri-lobeb schist bowl is an engineering item and not a religious item. i have been to the cairo museum, the schist bowl is a model to copy, eg bronze or copper. stone cannot handel the shock loads at this thin diamentsion. i hope that those interrested in this topic find my resuslts constructive.

Thanks for your input. I was thinking more along the lines of ancient misting system.

It DOES get hot in Egypt... A king who devised this misting system would definitely want it to follow him into the afterlife.

reply to post by Hanslune

Hello Hanslune....
Let me state up front so that there is no confusion.....I am not trying to overturn anything or any orthodox opinion about history......I made my model to satisfy my own personal curiosity, my curiosity led me to spin my model in water where patterns became visually obvious eg centripetal vortex.....

Because I have an engineering trades background I use engineering terminology to describe what I see, plain and simple....

One of the unforeseen outcome's of this personal project was the derogatory attitude that people like you would throw at me......Why do you say that I'm "cherry picking "???.....correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the topic of this thread....the tri-lobe bowl....so...how am I cherry picking??....

reply to post by Julie Washington

Hello JW,
I have not been able to find out what the other copper items were that Emery found in Sabu's tomb...I have some of Emery's books for the general public and there is no mention of the items in these....maybe they are described in some obscure specialist publication....which I'm yet to find....

The best link for the disc is Archea Solenhofen's artical via the Hall Of Maat...most of the nets info comes from this original source....

reply to post by reddpill

Hey redpill,...
I think I understand what your saying......so to follow this line of thought one would need to set up the reflector part at the right distance for the effect to oscillate between and build up intensity.....

I'm prepared to accept that disimilar materials might not matter for the end result.....expermenting would be the only way to find out......I will do some testing along these lines and see what the story is...

I do concur with you about dating......

Originally posted by tri-lobe-1
reply to post by reddpill

 

set up the reflector part at the right distance for the effect to oscillate between and build up intensity.....

You should be able to calculate the 'length' of the vortex mathematically based on the diameter of the disc?

Something else to understand is that unlike todays science is that 'scientists' use constant force to achieve movement, Nature uses oscillation or a 'pulse'. The setup of the disc with the 3 holes and the equal distance between them allows for this 'buffer' between each 'sine' wave, totalling 3. When balanced perfectly and spun at the correct RPM, in water in particular you will see them, nodes will appear in perfect alignment between the 3 'sine' waves within in the vortex channel, creating a perfect triple helix structure.

I drew a picture for you to help understand what I'm trying to explain. It's needs to be 'adjusted' to the position where the reflection surface allows for the highest intensity, like you said.

On a side note, this is how your spine is created and why their are nodes on your spine. The english word spine, came from a german word which relates to vortices. If you lay your head to the left and look at the picture below sideways it shows the 'caduceus' for medicine. The wings of this symbol are the electromagnetic forces associated with nature, it's method of 'creation' (implosion, and how all things in nature are created) are the 'snakes' with our double helix DNA strands. The snakes represent the Sun, as the North pole star of Sun is Draco and the Sun gives life and is very important on the human body.


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There are a few elements involved in getting this right. RPM, Hz, distance, a concave reflective surface?. Hence why I asked if you had done any airflow tests with some smoke.

Also, very important, spin it in the correct direction. Northern hemisphere = clockwise, southern hemisphere = anti-clockwise, otherwise you will be fighting nature and it's own electromagnetic fields.


Just thinking about it, with a few more parts this thing would make an awesome boring machine.

Thank you redpill,...
A picture say's a thousand words.......

It's so Victor Schauberger...living energies...and all that subject.....I'm very curious about this approach...

Thanks again......

Howdy Tri-lobe

One of the unforeseen outcome's of this personal project was the derogatory attitude that people like you would throw at me......Why do you say that I'm "cherry picking "???.....correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the topic of this thread....the tri-lobe bowl....so...how am I cherry picking??....

Sorry my comment wasn't meant to be taken that way. I support your attempt to see if the tri-lobe is something other than what we think it is. However, you ARE taking into consideration the other odd bowls and art objects that were made at this time in the same fashion and material. You might wish to take a look at them and good luck on your exploration

Hanslune

reply to post by Hanslune


Hello Hanslune,
Thank you for the reply.....and yes I have looked at many beautiful stone bowls and vessels,I've visited the Cairo Museum 5 times now....I've been under the stepped pyramid and inside mastaba's at Saqqara........

At the end of the day, I'm only interested in one item....the tri-lobe bowl....purely from a modern day perspective in reguards to it's shape/form and what it does when spinning in water.....

reguards...tri-lobe..

Hi Tri-lobe.

Just following up to see if you have done any more experiments with this object.

I do have a question thou...

If you spin this, with it's flat side facing the top of the water, does this create an opening in the surface of the water, like a whirlpool?

I have seen something similar to this but on a much smaller scale. It was used for "French Knitting" or rope weaving.
Just a thought.

reply to post by Hanslune

This is not a snake sculpture! Dolphins!

They are three headed dolphins with ostrich egg blow holes and one of the dolphins has a distinct flipper in the photograph you show. I have killed enough snakes in my yard in twenty years to tell you those are not snakes. Dolphins just like the ones found along the East coast every day.

The other bowl looks like machinery. It is very similar in aspects to a boat propeller. I said so a year ago when this object was last discussed. An Oops artifact. Maybe it is a piece of a UFO that left behind a broken machinery part that was discarded.

Maybe this machinery is a piece of the pyramids being a water pump. The pumps would need propellers to move the water.

Howdy frugal

Originally posted by frugal
reply to post by Hanslune

 

The other bowl looks like machinery. It is very similar in aspects to a boat propeller. I said so a year ago when this object was last discussed. An Oops artifact. Maybe it is a piece of a UFO that left behind a broken machinery part that was discarded.

Maybe this machinery is a piece of the pyramids being a water pump. The pumps would need propellers to move the water.

One of the rules of making a propeller or an impeller is to make sure it is balanced - and don't make it out of fragile rock

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Could be a chariot "rim" for the wheel.

Maybe the design was specific for some kind of defensive or offensive driving .

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
reply to post by Hanslune

 

Could be a chariot "rim" for the wheel.

Maybe the design was specific for some kind of defensive or offensive driving .

Might be but it made from a rock noted for being easy to shape and rather fragile. Whatever it was the guy it was buried with seemed to like it. There are others in the same motif but his was the most 'impellerish' looking.

A good little mystery

Originally posted by frugal
reply to post by Hanslune

 

Maybe this machinery is a piece of the pyramids being a water pump. The pumps would need propellers to move the water.

This is an interesting thought...it makes me recall the theories about some of the pyramids possibly being some form of energy power plant with well pumps, etc.


Thanks to whomever bumped this thread. I had not seen it before. The first thought which came to mind when I saw the object was "propeller".

The shape of each of the wings looks familiar to me as well. It makes me think of a logo which I have seen but I can't recall where I've seen it before.

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Why is the object "fragile" rock? What kind of rock? Maybe it was used as a mock up to make a mold of it. The Egyptian person may have designed it?

Water Mills used rock to grind up corn. The hole on that rock reminds me of the holes in the grinding stones.
The rock doesn't look like art, it looks like a machinery part.