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Originally posted by Cythraul
OP, your thoughts and frustrations reconcile uncannily with Gnosticism - particularly Anti-Cosmic Gnosticism.
I'll give you a brief overview, but you can discover more at the below link:
A select number of us are 'flameborn', the vast majority are 'clayborn'. The flameborn are ancient spirits, having existed as long as time itself. Jehova, the cosmic creator is a selfish, cruel god, who for his own pleasure imprisoned the flameborn souls within bodies of flesh upon this material world. He has bound us, enslaved us, trapped us in this cruel world of frustration, cosmic law and order. He also created clayborn humans who's essence is not ancient to walk among the flameborn. Each time we die, the cosmic creator makes us forget what we have learnt and traps us within a new body so that we suffer the cycle of physical existence again and again, for all eternity. The flameborn's ultimate goal is to transcend this material prison and return to the acosmic plain where Lucifer - the true god of light, wisdom and freedom dwells. This is done by 'waking up' and attaining the kind of knowledge that cannot be erased with each life cycle.
Sounds 'out there' I know, but you seem to demonstrate a distinct affinity for this kind of philosophy - one of entrapment in this cruel material world by a malevolent god.
Temple Of The Black Light
OK, I like blunt. Let me ask you why you are prepared to allow people (that's the majority of humanity) who you despise to bring you down to a state where you can't function?
If the rest of us are too stupid to understand anything, why take us all so seriously?
I can see why you don't want to be a part of this species if all you focus on are the negatives, but you're smart. Why can't you focus on the positives? Even if no-one else on this entire planet appears good and positive to you, at least you can find some good in yourself.
It's a long time since I felt as low as you do now. In fact, I'd forgotten I ever felt that way until I read your posts, and you reminded me. That's how far I've come away from it. I've never altered my ambition though, and I haven't become complacent.
If the only person you think you can depend on is you.
Originally posted by whatsup
Now, in contemplating the teaching of gnosticism (no matter what variant it is) the question of why a loving God would create an evil demuirge and allow him/her to enslave mankind (all sentient creatures for that matter) has never made sense to me. Anyone want to volunteer an explanation?
Originally posted by berenike
Thanks for your kind reply and for misunderstanding me as much as you think I've misunderstood you.
I must thank you, too, for starting this thread. It has actually resulted in something very good and encouraging in my life.
Inadvertent as this outcome may have been, you deserve credit. You never know, do you, when you cast a stone into the water how far the ripples will reach?
It's an interesting thought that some people might bring about positive results in this world by being negative just as easily as others can achieve them by being kind. It makes one wonder about the desires of the higher self and the convoluted way it might go about achieving them. I suppose it knows best how to use the the material it has to work with.
Last thing, you can't be condescending to me. In order to do that you would have to look down. And that is not where I am.
Satan was not created by God as God's word would have us believe. Both have always existed but one has stolen jurasdiction over us and therefore has had the opportunity to rewrite history, so to speak.
Originally posted by prometheus1111
reply to post by XcLuciFer
Fear not...many will come in droves that feel exactly as you do. Even folks you would have never dreamed that appeared to have everything will be wanting to get out of the line you refer to at the rollercoaster.
Many felt this way long ago and were called insane, depressed, low self esteem, negative etc. The ones that called us insane would always try to negotiate and plead to us from a...just be positive standpoint, get some professional help etc. This standpoint of be positive, cheer up, think about getting on some happy pills is no longer working.
Personally I couldnt care less if I'm killed when I walk out the door in a few minutes. Even if all the so called wonderful things in life were offered to me to change my mind in this mortal existence...i'm basically no longer interested.
[edit on 7/19/2008 by prometheus1111]