The cure to population growth is prosperity and health, ironically enough. Growth occurs where health and wealth is low. The worlds population will continue to grow until about 2050 when it will fall. The problem is a huge aging population and no working age people to support them.. I don't mean financial I mean doing the jobs to keep society ticking over.

By 2050 the population will have reached 12billion and to be perfectly honest the current population is unsustainable.

So the biggest problem is the short term which unfortunately will be solved with war as resources become ever shorter. War has a knock on effect in that it kills off any attempts for a healthier wealthier world. So round and round we go..........until greed and selfishness can be cured and I'm afraid that will never happen. Just read ATS replies to understand why!

Of course population control is needed if no we have no population control then there will be a lot of bug wars over water, food, and energy.

Originally posted by Izarith
Stop tying to play god or we will end up like China with no women.

Hello Izarith. Stop trying to overflow the planet or we'll end up like Auschwitz with piles of bodies and no food.

What will you, your children and your children's children gain from an 18 billion strong planet? As previously stated (you seem to have missed this part), I don't support culling, killing or eugenics. I support responsible breeding, but pessimistically, I don't see people adhering without some encouragement from state laws and policies.

This is completely idiot, and in fact, the very people advocating murder for population control, ie, the PTB, are the very ones who created this entire farce to begin with. The ultra conservative, corporate controllers of the western world have for years blocked and set up systems of tyranny in third world to continue to use the people as slaves and steal their resources. In all first world nations with good health care and equality for women, CHILD BIRTH DROPS TO BELOW ZERO, or nearly so. Development of Africa and the world, but with the clean technology those control-freaks are sitting on and hiding from us, or at the very least, with solar and the highest quality of alternate technology, should have been done years ago. But they prefer to send the CIA in to dismantle the democracies that took so much effort of the people and establish people like the Ayatollah Khomeini. Open your eyes and stop spouting the propaganda machines nonsense. High standards of living and international healthcare is the answer for the world.

Population control is not something to be taken lightly. The major factor is that while this world is capable of sustaining our current population and much more, but to do so requires huge investments into resources, which no government will do lightly.

Who knows what the future will hold. If even 1/10th of the technology stated on these forums and other places etc is true, then we have the means to do all this quite easily. Fly and colonize a different planet? Sure its all viable providing we can fly there cheaply and do all this easily.

Ive repeatedly read that the current technology the majority of us use, or have heard of and maybe seen is only a tiny part what our military/government show us. Population control is a extreme measure and is the opposite of what we are being told to do, which is multiply greatly in order to sustain the economy.

Anyway population control is something none of us in our lives will ever face. Sure you see TV, hear news about all this bad blah blah but who honestly believes everything you hear on TV.

The only problem with food shortages and etc is that this world in which we live in today is all about money, greed, selfishness and etc. I do not even consider the NWO if it exists a problem we have today. More likely its the fact us humans do not even want to work as a whole (planet), but would rather cause strife and war in order to keep their own power.

Things like petrol for example have supposedly been easily overcome... However the huge mega-powers in control of selling oil, coal and other such fuels do not want to lose their power which they gain by selling these. Just like how ciggerette and alcohol companies have continued to help create the laws that have made other substances illegal. No I do not myself take any illegal substance however its a huge farce that products such as those illegal substances are against the law, compared to tobacco and alcohol, both which are incredibly dangerous and cause life problems.

Brakes your heart to see the Earth over populated by Man at the expense of all other creatures, we are the only animal that is out of sync with the natural balance.
The water and air is toxic the fish are almost gone with complete fisheries at a standstill. Whales are not going to make it there are too few to sustain a population, sad. The only creatures not in serious decline are Humans Cockroaches and Rats and when the water, air and food supply is used up the only survivors will be the smaller cockroaches and rats, ((excluding the celebrities, politicians and corporate rich)) .
Pollution, Profit, Politics and bags of cash are above all else so with dirty money investing in politics we should never expect a cure just blame and panic when it's too late.
I watched TLC about the lives of those large 12-17 kid families and think this is nuts! Each human born need 4 acres to supply their needs and those families alone consume 50 acres of land, there go the trees, This should be shocking shamed not made into entertainment. Religion and its myths bare a large measure of responsibility for refusing to allow birth control or sex education so these super large breeders all seem be controlled by religious fables not responsibility to the greater whole.
This area of debate will always bring out the “I have my rights” crowed who refuse to balance rights with any responsibleness. We need more social responsibilities less personal rights “Ask not what your country can do for you” Say ! How about a “Deceleration of Responsibilities”

We need downsizing and fast (without war) or we will not make it.

Has anyone actually flown over the United States lately? I fly from Detroit to LA about once a month... There is plenty of room in this country. Just because the OP lives in a crowded city doesn't mean we have over population. We may have over population in the inner cities of this country I will tell you that. Want to control it? Wall them off because all they do is procreate...

Peak oil isn't going to kill us either unless we are forced back into the middle ages with draconian tax increases. If the American free market is left alone then we will come up with a solution to the oil problem. I would say we keep the solution for America only. Screw the rest of the world. They hate everything we stand for anyway. I would also say we should raise our food exports to match the price of oil. Doing just that will kill millions for the OP.

The world seems hell bent on political correctness and environmental fascism and they point to the USA as the evil country and that is what is going to do us in. If it were up to me I would bring every American home and give the rest of the world (Hate the USA crowd) exactly what they want and watch the muslims, former USSR and China burn them for their ignorance.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Either we achieve an eqaulibrium we make ourselves or it happens naturally and people starve to death.

I agree wholeheartedly with your post. Great topic, starred and flagged.

I think the solution to this problem rests upon the shoulders of the world's strongest nations. We need to stop the inane practice of giving aid (especially food) to third world countries! Those people reproduce at an unsustainable rate, then inevitably spill across their borders and invade more responsible nations like the United States and Britain, who should not have to give up precious resources to support the influx.

Rather than wasting so much money and resources trying to "aid" nations that serve no good purpose and produce nothing but millions of unskilled, uneducated people, we should let nature work its magic and wipe out these weaker members of the human race. Maybe we should even give her a little nudge, to prevent well-meaning fools from private charities from doing much damage.

Also, I need to add that we have to address this issue here at home as well. No more government welfare should be allowed, or if people sign up for any kind of governmental assistance, they should be sterilized. Perhaps all people should be temporarily sterilized in the public schools while they're in the eighth grade or so and not get the process reversed until they reach a certain financial status, are married for a number of years and both they and their spouse pass some sort of standardized test. If that's too hard to accomplish, we could at least tax everyone a good amount for each child they are raising (and give those who remain childless a tax credit). Society would be a lot better off if the poor weren't having so many children that they can't take care of - especially those who attempt to raise their kids in one-parent homes. The prison system is clogged up with millions of thugs who really would have been better off as abortions.

This isn't a problem that the U.S., Europe and other developed nations need to solve. Their birthrate is already low. No, this squarely falls on developing nations like "chindia" with their billions of people, and latin america with their antiquated (catholic) views on birth control to deal with.

If your one who thinks the world needs population control, you are Wrong.

We have land, we have water, we have other planets.

We can build an underground city, we can build structures on other planets, we have millions of acres that aren't even being used.

Of course we don't see any of this because the powers the be on our world want us to live as dummies. The human race would be thriving throughout the solar system, But then again humans want to stay at war with each other because of skin color, appearances, and beliefs.

That's our solution though. It's there, we can do it, we have the technology, we can do anything we want.

There is No need to kill, or follow a scripture.

Differences need to be set aside. It's as simple as that.

Originally posted by centurion1211
This isn't a problem that the U.S., Europe and other developed nations need to solve. Their birthrate is already low. No, this squarely falls on developing nations like "chindia" with their billions of people, and latin america with their antiquated (catholic) views on birth control to deal with.

I half agree with you. While I too feel that the United States, Canada, Western Europe, etc., are not to blame for this troubling problem, we can't exactly expect the backward people in the third world to suddenly start living responsibly and clean up the mess they've created for the rest of us. There's a reason we're able to maintain a healthy birthrate in the civilized world while the "developing" world (and it sure is taking them a long time to develop, isn't it?!) pumps out billions of children the world has no use for.

We finally have the technical know-how to efficiently and humanely sterilize entire populations pretty effectively. Instead of spending our money to give a meager amount of food to starving little backward people, we should spray massive doses of sterilizing chemicals into their air and water supply - heck, maybe even just put it in that food we've been giving them (although that is less effective because there's no guarantee they'll all eat the food, but we know they all have to breathe the air)!

We can even thin out the lower classes in our own country by creating a new "social" government program that provides separate foodstuffs to those on welfare, free or reduced price public school lunches, or enrolled in food stamp programs and the like, then provide them with chemically-laced food that causes sterilization. Once they attain a certain level of wealth, status and intelligence, they could pay for a medical procedure to reverse this process. After all, America is the land of opportunity and plenty of people reach great success from humble beginnings.