SETI something just doesn't add up!

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Well the aliens in their supposed craft that are supposed to be around Earth would obviously be smart enough not to transmit any communication on the hydrogen line, 1420MHz, where there are millions of computers generating almost 500 teraflops of computing power listening on that frequency, aren't they?

That would just be plain dumb.

Unfortunately for us, that is all SETI@Home is listening to.

It seems like a nice thing to make a conspiracy about, but everyone needs to read the factual scientific basis of what SETI@Home actually does before running around and condemning anyone that introduces logic into the argument.

Originally posted by mattguy404
reply to post by stander

 

Well the aliens in their supposed craft that are supposed to be around Earth would obviously be smart enough not to transmit any communication on the hydrogen line, 1420MHz, where there are millions of computers generating almost 500 teraflops of computing power listening on that frequency, aren't they?

That would just be plain dumb.

Unfortunately for us, that is all SETI@Home is listening to.

It seems like a nice thing to make a conspiracy about, but everyone needs to read the factual scientific basis of what SETI@Home actually does before running around and condemning anyone that introduces logic into the argument.

Then of course comes the argument that Aliens visting this solar system doesn't nesseraly have to communicate using radiosignals. They could use ways of communication unknow to us. SETI for a part comes acros to me to finding and other group of humans by looking if there a smokesignals cominhg up.

It seems like a nice thing to make a conspiracy about, but everyone needs to read the factual scientific basis of what SETI@Home actually does before running around and condemning anyone that introduces logic into the argument.

If everyone put there faith in science i.e waiting for someone to tell us something that we already know our life would be very different. Science is a joke when it comes to Ufology because its whitewashed. Ufology is a subject that creates titters and scoffs, within that particular field.

With the technology we have now if science wanted to prove that intelligent life really exists they could. Conspiracy or not

IMHO Bottom line is that SETI isn't helping the cause



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How exactly would we be able to prove if there was advanced life or not, with the tech we have currently?

Originally posted by RuneSpider
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How exactly would we be able to prove if there was advanced life or not, with the tech we have currently?

Where do I begin? First off I would suggest broadcasting live HD feeds from space to our televisions, through several channels pertaining to our country. Next I would suggest that NASA broadcast live uninterupted feed from there space craft or from a space station when on their missions.

Have you seen the footage on You Tube of the water being expelled in to space from the craft then a UFO pops in to take a look and then the camera operator quickly changes the aperature. Its a sorry state to try and defend the 'powers' that be

The truth is that 'they' know and aren't telling us IMO SETI is part of the lie The problem is the money its always the money



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Originally posted by franspeakfree

UFOs, hypothetically speaking, would not make any communication that would let them be 'picked up' here on Earth.

I find this very hard to believe, especially after hearing from reputable personel that have stood before congress and said that USAF have been in communication with E.Ts for many years.

Do you have a link to that?

Without getting to far away form the topic if you google The Discolsure Project and have a good old read also there are some good videos on You Tube that show each member individually. Also if you are lucky you can download the whole disclosure conference if you can find it.

Allegedly the USAF found a device amongst the wreckage at Roswell that they couldn't work out what it was. The ebe that they detained advised it was a communication device but didn't tell the scientists/researchers how to use until sometime later. Allegedly just before the ebe died it used the device to arrange contact between us and them. When he died allegedly contact was made, the meeting took place and thats when the treaties started.

Originally posted by Pachinko
Stanton Friendman is a vocal critic of SETI, you may want to check him out.

ufos.about.com...

Billy: In your book, you refer to SETI as a cult. Can you explain that to us?

Friedman: Cults have charismatic leadership, strong dogma, strong resistance to outside ideas, and a enlarged notion of their own importance. They make claims rather than review evidence. They are looking for signals produced by an advanced civilization and constantly say there is no evidence for UFOs. They never refer to the large scale scientific studies that I discuss in "Flying Saucers and Science."

This guy is kicking himself in the butt so profoundly that he can't be possibly taken seriously by a collage graduate.

The widely used and accepted term "UFO believers" lives in the drawer labeled "Religions & Cults," not "Science." There is a difference between "believe" and "assume," as there is a difference between religion and science. It's apparent that Friedman is very unhappy with himself for having failed to become the "charismatic leader" to the UFO believers.

Stanton Friedman launched his forgotten-Roswell tirade after talking to Jesse Marcel back in 1978 who suddenly recalled things that he never mentioned before. A true scientist would be more than cautious accepting the altered tale, but Friedman built his case no-further-questions-asked style indicative to the way a priest would handle the new recollections. That's very likely why Stanton Friedman's book didn't leave lasting impression on those SETI folks -- if some of them even bothered to read it.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
...So why doesn't SETI pick it up?

1- Nothing was detected thuse far
2- It isn't listening on the right frequencies
3- It isn't scanning the right locations
4- cover up
5- etc, etc...

a quick search on the internet will bring up countless of footage showing UFO'S in space so why...

You'll find anything online, mostly misleading footage, and misinformed statements. I've been on ATS a long time and the number of credible and authenticated video footage is actually amazingly low.

hasn't SETI done its job and picked up the faintest of signals?

Space is huge...do a google for a video entitled "power of ten" to get an idea for the span of space to search..it isn't an easy job!

Secondly, Could it be that SETI is a cover up for something?

Imo, the cover-up angle has been played to death. Imo getting the scoop means even the slightest ufo on the MSM radar (pun intended) will get coverage (StephanVille Texas late last year and the number of CNN reports that generated).

Same with seti, there are a bunch of hard working folks there.
If you have questions, ask it in their forum.

setiathome.berkeley.edu...

And while you're at it, join the ATS team

setiathome.berkeley.edu...

currently at position 245 worldwide

boincstats.com...

Thirdly, Could it be that the SETI Institute is using home pc's with its applications for uses other than Searching for Extraterrestrial Intelligence

no.

Originally posted by NightWulf
Then of course comes the argument that Aliens visting this solar system doesn't nesseraly have to communicate using radiosignals. They could use ways of communication unknow to us. SETI for a part comes acros to me to finding and other group of humans by looking if there a smokesignals cominhg up.

SETI is looking for an ET civilization that is virtually identical to ours. The search is based on certain, quite limited assumptions and it doesn't include the search for advanced civilizations for an obvious reason: we don't have the slightest idea about the communication technologies available some 50,000 years from now. But SETI fraudulently claims that the absence of a radio signal coming from a certain part of space is an indicative of no ET civilization residing there. The PhD's at SETI just can't admitt to the world that they don't have the tools to locate the advanced folks out there.

Most of the skepticism toward the UFO is influenced by the SETI search, and the skeptics can't free themselves from the mental slavery imposed by the SETI. Man's psyche has been always subservient to the opinion of title-holding potentates. That's the consequence of the simian DNA to human DNA transformation.

Same with seti, there are a bunch of hard working folks there.
If you have questions, ask it in their forum

There are a bunch of hard working people in the army but do they know what they are fighting for ?



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