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Originally posted by LLoyd45
I don't feel like I need a shower, but I certainly need a handful of Ibuprofen! Some of these Obam threads give me a serious migraine!
"What I believe will make this country great."
So you claim that Obama should feel proud for a country that is despised by the rest of the world?
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Overstatement,
Anyway why would I want everyone to love me?
That would mean I have no guts, no hutspa, no strength of conviction,
It would make me an appeaser and a hypocrite,
Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin
1. Obama grew up in a country where he was able to choose his own religion
2. Obama grew up in a country where he was able to speak freely about his own ideals
3. Obama lives in a country where he was able to be elected to a position in Congress as one of the 10% of African American people that make up Congress
4. Obama lives in a country where he is guaranteed protection of civil rights under the Constitution of the United States
5. Obama lives in a country that won't kill him for not wearing the flag on his person
6. Obama lives in a country whose economy has allowed him to do very well for himself and his family, affording him and his family three meals a day, a roof over his head and the essentials of living
7. Obama lives in a country that says "not only are we ready to entertain the idea of a female president we are ready to entertain the idea of a black president as well"
8. Obama grew up in a country where everyone regardless of race or gender has the right to vote
So you want more affirmative action? When will the reverse discrimination end? Hom much more of an advantage should we give minority populations? 40+ years of inequality hasn't been enough?
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
Really. Who's going to do something for them? Im not saying GIVE them money. I'm not saying GIVE them a job. I am saying create chances for them to GET money. Create chances for them to GET a job that doesnt have a dead end to it.
Now if that comment doesn't reek of racism and stereotyping I don't know what does! Typical White person.. Please describe to me what that entails. Not all White people are rich, not all White people live in upperclass neighborhoods, and not all White people have had the advantage of college.
You are a typical white american. You think since your life is so cozy - that it should be the same for everyone else.
But its not.
Where will he get all the money to fund these entitlement programs? I can tell you where, from the working man's tax dollars, which he'll obviously have to increase. We already have a 9 trillion dollar deficit, yet he wants to spend more? It doesn't sound very fiscally responsible to me. What about you?
That is part of the change that i see Obama believes in.
I thought Jesse Jackson was a black man? I even voted for him.
So yeah- Obama, the first black presidential nominee. HE can be proud of that. Name one other black person who can boast the same.
Originally posted by LLoyd45
Now if that comment doesn't reek of racism and stereotyping I don't know what does! Typical White person.. Please describe to me what that entails. Not all White people are rich, not all White people live in upperclass neighborhoods, not all White people have had the advantage of college.
So yeah- Obama, the first black presidential nominee. HE can be proud of that. Name one other black person who can boast the same.I thought Jesse Jackson was a black man? I even voted for him.
Perhaps we should declare our support for men who write their own speeches without the aid of marketing experts whose soul purpose is cater speeches around perceived reception, and not around substance. What makes Obamas speeches less important are that they make him sound like more of a political pragmatist and not a true honest candidate.
SOURCE
Favreau and Obama rapidly found a relatively direct way to work with each other. "What I do is to sit with him for half an hour," Favreau explains. "He talks and I type everything he says. I reshape it, I write. He writes, he reshapes it. That's how we get a
finished product.
"It's a great way to write speeches. A lot of times, you write something, you hand it in, it gets hacked by advisers, it gets to the candidate and then it gets sent back to you. This is a much more intimate way to work."
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
Definition of typical
1. of the nature of or serving as a type or representative specimen.
2. conforming to a particular type.
3. Biology. exemplifying most nearly the essential characteristics of a higher group in natural history, and forming the type: the typical genus of a family.
4. characteristic or distinctive: He has the mannerisms typical of his class.
5. pertaining to, of the nature of, or serving as a type or emblem; symbolic.
from websters.com
Show me, where in that definition, it says 'typical' encompasses ALL things of a given argument. Typical doesnt refer to ALL white people. A typical white person is one that says "i got here on my own, so can black people"
People who really want equally don't ask for an advantage. They prefer to be judged on the merit of their abilities and credentials, not their skin color or ethnicity. I agree, it should be done away with.
I, myself, worked very hard to get to where i am today, and did not moan and groan to get here. I have lost things in the past due to affirmative action. "Affirmative Action" is a double edged blade, that i believe needs thrown away, and something new come into play.
You can't help but let your true colors shine through, can you?
Whats the difference though?
"typical" white people can't see the forst for the tree's
I got gypped! My ancestors didn't leave me squat!
There is a wealth in white america that exists because of the oppression of black people before us. White ancestors prospered and passed on their wealth, generation after generation, while black people slowly began to work their way into the economical structure of this company.
Really? You know that for a fact?
TYPICAL white people say "i got here on my own"
That's amazing given the number of Black managers and administrators I've seen.
But typical white people wouldnt hire 'typical' black people for a job at a local store looking for assistant manager, because "gasp, he might rob the place"
It doesn't hurt me, because I don't see it as being true. If you think someone should kiss your butt due to your skin color be it white, black, red, or yellow.. you're in for a big disappointment. Respect is earned.
Sorry you need such clear clarification on "typical white person" Sorry it hurts you so bad when the truth comes to light, but the fact is that most White americans dont give a good damn about black americans, and vice versa. And its both based on skin color. That has to stop.
Ahhh.. now you remember who he is. Jackson is racially biased, but at the time I didn't want to believe it. So you admit Obama is racist too?
Yeah- and Jesse Jackson really stood a chance. Its kind of funy that you dislike Obama for the very things Jesse Jackson stands for.
If any one person has said racially biased comments about white people - its jesse jackson. So either you're lying to try and appear "unbiased" - or the biggest hypocrite i've ever met.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
But typical white people wouldnt hire 'typical' black people for a job at a local store looking for assistant manager, because "gasp, he might rob the place"
From a racist, Afrocentric point of view they may be, but to the average White person, they're simply offensive and an attempt at stereotyping those who disagree with him.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by paxnatus
Obama's words?
""bitter working class rural voters won't embrace him because they "cling" to God, guns and bigotry" "
They are true.
Through and Through.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
So what does Obama have to be proud of? ]