It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by jam321
Obama was caught doing things a candidate shouldn't do.
Originally posted by lostcoyote
why would wearing a flag pin and reciting the pledge of allegiance nessessarily be equated with being a patriotic US citizen?
maybe people who do not stand up and recite the pledge of allegiance simply feel that there is no need... Or maybe they disagree with a few lines such as "One nation under god" (which is BS imo)... or maybe they don't want to act like a sock-puppet.
whatever the case, these things are trivial and it's amazing to watch people turn molehills into mountains.
Originally posted by jam321
However, when he flips and starts doing these things that he previously felt were not necessary in order to prove his patriotism, then I see a problem. I see a person who goes with the flow and doesn't stand up for what he believes. He caved in to the pressure rather than articulate and stand firm on his beliefs. Just like any other politician.
McCain has done similar things but has proven over the years that he isn't afraid to PO somebody when he doesn't agree. This is the reason I am undecided. No matter what they say we are still voting for the same O thing.
Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by Andrew E. Wiggin
As far as McCain racial slur, put it into context. During the Vietnam war, they were gooks to the military just like ragheads is to Arabs in this war. I am sure that the Vietnamese soldiers and Arab insurgents have their own racial slur used to define the Americans.
And saluting the flag? Only military are supposed to salute the flag! You think he should impersonate military personnel just to please the doubters? Jeez!
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
But, if you're a subscriber here, does that mean you think the same way they do?
Do you agree with 100% of what springer, or S.O., or Simon Gray think?
Because if you don't, well...you subscribe here.
How is that any different?
[edit on -05:00America/Chicago3131110711313131 by Andrew E. Wiggin]
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by sos37
I see
So, lets pretend for arguments sake, sos, that you were running for POTUS
now, lets say that steve urkel was your opponent, and one of his lackeys found out that you had been posting here for "10 years" and then pointed out some of the more asinine threads like
"im a space alien, bow down to me earthlings"
and
"the earth is actually flat"
and then twisted all of that to make ATS seem like a rediculous place.
Sure, it'd be easy to do, if you left out all the reasons ATS is a wonderful place, and omit the fact that no matter where you are, there are ignorant people posting ignorant crap that has no relevence to the board its posted in.
It is the same thing. You treat it differently because of your extreme dislike for Obama.
Its a church. A black church.
Just because one man says something, doesnt mean that EVERY PERSON who goes to that church agree's with it.
So you're avoiding the question
do you agree with 100% of everything that the three wisemen say and do?
If so - make sure you dont run for president, because one day, someone will find a way to twist the stories, revamp a few things, omit a few more things, and use ATS against you.
Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
reply to post by walkinghomer
Well, then i guess on that note
anyone who voted for bush better start forking over thier paychecks to the 2009 president, and better start packing their bags to be shipped off to iraq