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Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Matrix1111
I was raised Catholic (I am not now) and agree with you that its past is full of lies and deceit. Its treatment of other beliefs and the whole slaughter of people (the Cathars and others) is unfathomable. They wanted to hold on to power (and to a degree still do). I at least am glad they are slowly dealing with their violent past.
It is interesting they did pay that priest in Rennes-le-Chateau over 6 million gold francs to keep some big secret.
Jesus replied,
"Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.
(St. Matthew 16:17-20)
Originally posted by The angel of light
reply to post by Matrix1111
The gospel is so clear with respect to the Patriarchship of St. Peter over not only the church of Jerusalem but the world's one at his time. This is recorded in all the four sipnotic gospels, so it is clear that this is not an autodeclaration of St. Peter, but something well accepted with all the apostles and disciples of Jesus.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by The angel of light
There are two different Jesus: the man and the myth.
The church decided to make Jesus a virgin birth and make him divine. He may have actually had faith healing and other powers. He was descended from David on Joseph's side, which made him able to actually claim he was the King of the Jews. These are all facts that have been changed to keep people in power.
The Gnostic Christians lost out on the debate because they stated Jesus was not divine (literal son of God), but a human being. Had they won out, Christianity would be a little different.
Isaiah 7:14-15, The New International version
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a Son, and will call him Immanuel. He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the the wrong and choose the right.
St Mathew 1:22-23, The king James version
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
St Mathew 12, 31-32 King James version
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.