reply to post by Matrix1111
The Jews of the Diaspora, who fled Judah after the fall of Jerusalem 586BC, were widely distributed throughout the Mediterranean and the Middle East.
A significant segment of these had chosen Alexandria in Egypt as their home. By the fourth century BC the Jews there had largely lost much of their
capability to communicate in or understand their original tongue, Hebrew. They adopted the language of the area, which was Greek. The need to
understand their religious roots was strong and so the Hebrew Bible (then consisting only of the Torah) was translated into Greek. This translation
was called the Septuagint
Well I want to finish this discussion since it is quite obvious that we are talking using a so different language. While I am using two so known and
for centuries very clear biblical writers St Isaiah and St Matthew, Matrix1111 is insisting with incredible stubbornness to continue using non
orthodox and so dubious sources.
For instance now he wants to give a precise interpretation of one of the fundamentals of the Christian faith, by using translations or I can say
better biased interpretations of a group of Jews that arrived to Egypt after the entrance of Titus in Jerusalem in the 70 AC and he expect that we are
going to accept their words in a matter of this????
It is a lie that is so big to be enough to construct with it an interoceanic bridge from here to the beaches of Normandy, that the Jews of the
Diaspora exited Jerusalem in the 586 AC, as your sources said, they were massively expulsed as slaves and dispersed along all the provinces of the
Roman Empire by the General Titus in 70 AC and by orders of the Emperor Claudius, that is in any serious book of History.
Your words clearly shows that you are part of the false rhetoric used by the extremist zionists to justify their current conflict in the middle east,
they are lying just only to blame the Palestinians of all their problems in their exile.
In 586 AC when Palestine was annexed by the Islam there were no Jews at all living there, possible some other type of Semites, like the Edomits or
Amonits, Canaanits, Jebusean or Philistean but non jews by sure.
It is clear that the People that he is talking about were not Christians of any denomination, moreover, they were the people that Jesus in person told
were going to be expulsed of the Holy land, and many killed inside the Walls of Jerusalem, as a consequence of their terrible sin committed when they
rejected him and decided to execute him with false charged of conspiracy against Rome.
In the 70 A.C the Principals among the Jews decided to support a genuine subversion against Rome, leaded by Herod Antipas, and the consequences for
the Jew nation were terrible, and along the next 20 centuries. So the same people that requested to Pilate to crucify Christ saying that he was a
danger to the empire since he claimed to be the King of the Jews, were the same that decided to go ahead in conspiracy against Rome 40 years later.
The only conclusion that I can take of all this arguments and primarily about so nice sources used by Matrix1111 is that of course they most disagreed
with me and the traditional Chritian ideas since his sources comes for one of the most hypocrite and perverse people that ever have lived in the
History of our planet.
Luke 13:22-30 by the way is a so useful evidence to prove that Jesus never said that in some time in the future the Holy land will return to be a
Jew State. Christ never promised a modern Israel,
as now some fanatic & irresponsible "Christian" leaders, like John Hagee are every day
repeating in their TV programs, as a supposed reason to continue sponsoring the expansion of the Zionist plans in the Middle east and also to promote
the sending of more and more of millions of Jews to a country in which the only sure thing they are going to find is one of the most impressive and
cruel tragedies of the History.
To the contrary Christ clearly stated that the possession of the Holy land by the Jews was going to finish and that country will be given to
another people that use it better, since they showed to don’t deserve it.
The modern Israel was never predicted by any Prophet of the antiquity, the supposed verses of Isaiah that this fanatics likes to use to support
their crazy ideas were written 8 centuries before Christ and refer exclusively to the return of the Hebrews from the exile in Babylonia happened in
the V century before our era.
America must understand that there is so grave conspiracy between the Zionist fundamentalism and the Evangelic one to wash the brains of our
society with the idea that we are doing the best to support an state that visible during the last 50 years has been created terrible issues in the
middle east and for America too, since they are manipulating us to support them in their wars against Palestinians, Syrians and Arabs.
Thanks for your attention,
The Angel of Lightness
The Narrow Door
22Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going
to be saved?"
He said to them, 24"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.
25Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'
26"Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.'
27"But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'
28"There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you
yourselves thrown out. 29People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God.
30Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, will be first, and first who will be last."
[edit on 7/19/2008 by The angel of light]