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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 12:10 PM by where
reply to post by GradyPhilpott



Err. I'm current. I was trained as an 0651 but then I got to my first unit and they were like oh well, you can be a radio operator for the recon teams. Thanks. Then I was with engineers and now I've gone infantry.


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Saf85
Hmm a lot of genuine guys in here, but from what I read, there do seem to be a few lying through their fingers nails (would have said teeth, but they did not speak lol).

Nice to know some people think having served in a regular combat role or support role, gives them the right to fantacise about being special force elites etc.

Given the fact most combat role personnel do not bother to join special forces, since they have experianced all the boring, mundane and repetative crap in their existing role, why would they wish to amplify that crap aspect 10x? Majority of those applying for such roles, tend to be non combat people, who still have the action packed fantasy in their mind.

Then again most real vets would not be posting about there exploits since they are still bound by the military secrecy laws etc. Also why would they wish for any information that could lead an extreamist back to them? "Oh I served in Somalia in support to the blackhawk down incident" etc, would just paint a target on you for any Somalian extreamist.

Anyway for all those genuine people, you have my respect for your hardwork. Those who are lying on here, I hope you get taken out by a child fighter in ww3 as payback for all that boasting lol.

I myself have not served in the military, altough I did come close to joining military intelligence (UK, would have been MI6 most likely). But decided to not proceed past the test stage, after Iraq kicked off :S. Plus I was only desperate for a job which is why I applied, did not realise it would have taken over 6 months to get to training stage! I needed a job there and then lol (had a picture; turn up for interview, they test me on the same day instead of next month, then a week later turn up at bootcamp for basic training...).


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 09:21 PM by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by Saf85



The thread title is strangely worded, but the OP is clear that he includes all military or former military personnel.

As to who's lying, I'll leave that as a matter of conscience.

Many of your assumptions are just plain wrong.

No veteran needs to be secretive about his service, although he might need to be secretive about specific missions, in which case, you're not likely to ever hear of them.


[edit on 2008/10/11 by GradyPhilpott]


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 09:51 PM by WhiteOneActual
Originally posted by Saf85
Then again most real vets would not be posting about there exploits since they are still bound by the military secrecy laws etc. Also why would they wish for any information that could lead an extreamist back to them? "Oh I served in Somalia in support to the blackhawk down incident" etc, would just paint a target on you for any Somalian extreamist.


I don't know how it works for other countries, but for the most part US forces are only bound by OPSEC before and during a mission, so as to not give away troop stregnth and positions to the enemy (they read ATS too).

After the operation is complete, assuming there isn't a related follow-on mission, you can tell all the war stories you want. How do you think all these books come out? If we were completely and indefinitely bound by military secrecy, we wouldn't know that Somalia even happened, or D-Day for that matter.

For those of us in the force, its easy to spot a poseur. People who have served are just different. Act different, speak different, write different. We know our own. If someone wants to fake the funk, he will just find himself ignored.

And if any "extremist" wants to invest the time and money to track me down and come to "get me," he can rest assured that I will make his trip an interesting one. Hopefully his organization can get a refund on the return ticket. Hell, maybe I could get a good book contract out of the deal.

[edit on 11-10-2008 by WhiteOneActual]


reply posted on 11-10-2008 @ 10:06 PM by dooper
reply to post by Saf85



I don't know about any lying that you assume.

Army 1970-1973

SF - (S qualified) Engineer 12B
Indirect Fire - 11C (gunner, forward observer, FDC)
Light Infantryman - 12B
Radio/Telephone Operator 05-B

Served in two Ranger Companies, "O" (Arctic Rangers) and "H" attached to the First Cav in Viet Nam. I served with some really good guys, and buried a few as well. Know a few names on the Wall.

And yes, at football games, I still well up a bit when they raise the flag and play the Star Spangled Banner.

God Bless America, because we don't seem to have many friends.
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